Intersecting Elements Error when importing Geometry

When I try to load my EOP geometry, I continue to get an error saying that I have intersecting elements. The two elements in question are the median EOP line and EOP taper of a turn lane. The road is curving in this location, so I don't know if that is throwing it off.

I have been following the manual as closely as possible while trying to set this up. This is my first attempt at corridor modeler and cannot get past this.

If someone does not have a simple solution, then i can post an image of the two lines that seem to be giving me trouble as well as the settings for corridor modeler.

Thanks

  • How is the reference chain used to identify the elements you want to import set up?  Are you basically copying the CL chain 500 ft to the right and looking back across the roadway 1000 ft to the left (which is how it's taught in our manuals)?  If this is the case, try separating the elements to be imported into other chains.  What's happening, generally, is there is too much being 'calculated'.  

      

  • My project has several curves in it, and is relatively narrow. I went ahead and made the IMPORT chain 100 offset left of the CLCONST. Then I am looking back 200' Rt. to pick up anything.

    The project is approximately 1 mile long.

    As far as separating things to be imported into other chains, how do I go about doing that? I have everything broken up into its own thing (EOP, FSW, BSW, etc.)

    Zachary Billings, P.E.

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  • There are a couple of ways to import the Plan Graphics as there own chain still maintaining what the chain represents (ie. EOP, FSW, BSW, etc.).

    There are three (3) methods the designer can use to select plan graphics to import: Symbology, Feature and Selection Set.

    The plan graphics selected to import will be grouped together as a chain in which the designer will be given the opportunity to name the chain. Unique naming conventions are recommended for the ease of management of chains utilized by the corridor modeler to ensure are easily recognized. The naming convention should be descriptive, yet use minimal characters (example: On a divided highway, naming the edge of proposed pavement lines could be named ‘LT_Outside_EOP, LT_Inside_EOP, RT_Inside_EOP and RT_Outside_EOP’).

    You can use the side (Left in your case) + the Begin offset and End Offset (when using the Feature or Symbology Methods) to set a range to look for the Plan Graphics.  Basically set begin and end offset to look for the right outside EOP from 0'-50', the inside right EOP (right side of median) '51-100', Left inside EOP (left side of median) 101'-150' and the outside left EOP to 151'-200'.  

    Note: these numbers will have to be modified for your project and correct offset distance from the IMPORT chain to the plan graphic specified.  This is just to give an example of the offset ranges.

    By setting the side to Left you are telling the program the Plan graphics to look for are to the left of the Reference Chain (IMPORT).

    By setting the Begin and End offsets you are telling the program to look for the specified Plan Graphic symbology within that range.

    This will give the opportunity to name the paln graphics as separate new chains.  (ie. LT_EOP_OUT, LT_EOP_IN, RT_EOP_IN and RT_EOP_OUT’).

      

    Answer Verified By: Zachary Billings