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Long Time to run Fire Model in WaterCAD

The model takes long time to run small fire network, I do not think that should take these minutes; I did many projects and even larger in shorter time...!!

I have attached the model for reference.

Regards,

MO.

Fire Model.zip 

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  • Mo,

    I took a look at your model and it only seems to take a few seconds for me to run it. Here's what I would like you to do: 1) Make a new folder where you have your model files saved 2) Open the zip file that you uploaded above and place those files (.wtg and .wtg.sqlite ) into the new folder you created. 3) Try to run the model again and see if that helps.

    One thing that I did notice in your fire flow alternative was that you have the option for the fire flow auxiliary results set to save for all nodes. Once you save your file using those setting your are going to have an output file generated for each node that you are running a fire flow on in your system (125). It's possible that all these output files are causing the performance issue that you are seeing. What you might want to do on successive runs, so you don't generate all those output files in the same folder as the model files is either 1) Change the "Fire Flow Auxiliary Results Type" setting to 'None' in your fire flow alternative or 2) If you need to save the fire flow auxiliary results set the option under the Tools > Options > Project tab to save the files to a different folder location. You can read more about how to do this in this fire flow auxiliary results wiki below:

    communities.bentley.com/.../7467.large-number-of-output-files-being-saved

    Regards,
    Mark

    Mark

  • Hi Mark,

    I followed up what you said and I run the model on new location after I made "Non" for fire flow auxiliary results and also change the path for the output results; even that done the model took around 1 minute and 10 seconds, I do think that more than normal do you agree?.

    Regards,.....MO.
  • I computed the Auto Fire scenario in under 4 seconds as well.

    Here are a couple of things to consider.

    1) Are you using the 32-bit or 64-bit version of WaterCAD?

    You can check by going to Help > About WaterCAD.

    Opening a product as a 64 bit product

    2) Try extracting "Fire Model.zip" (.wtg and .wtg.sqlite) to your desktop and computing the model again. The slow time to compute may be related to your files being on a network.

     

    Regards,

    Craig Calvin

    Bentley Technical Support

  • Hi  Craig,

    I have the latest version SS5 (08.11.05.61) and the laptop is 64bit and using 64 bit of watercad ..!! the laptop it self i7 with 16GB RAM,

    The Zip file excuted on the desktop (not on the network); all of that done and it still take long to compute, each element takes a second, see the screenshot below:

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  • Mohammed,

    Here are a few things you can try.  1) Make sure to download and install the latest patch set for version 08.11.05.61. You can find the instructions for how to do that in the wiki below:

    http://communities.bentley.com/products/hydraulics___hydrology/w/hydraulics_and_hydrology__wiki/8175.how-do-i-download-watergems-watercad-hammer-sewergems-sewercad-civilstorm-stormcad-pondpack-flowmaster-culvertmaster

    I've taken a screen shot of the fire flow report that I was generated by my computer, which you can find below, to make sure you are seeing the same thing. I have the report sorted by the fire flow iterations in descending order. In case it's hard read it looks like most of the nodes only take about 5 iterations to converge on a solution. There are only about 14 that take more than that and maybe 25 or so that take less. Is this what you're seeing too?

    You might also want to open example 5 found in the program files folder for WaterGEM/CAD "C:\Program Files (x86)\Bentley\WaterGEMS\Samples" and see if you are having similar issues running the automated fire flow scenario in that file.

    Regards,

    Mark

    Mark

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  • Mohammed,

    Here are a few things you can try.  1) Make sure to download and install the latest patch set for version 08.11.05.61. You can find the instructions for how to do that in the wiki below:

    http://communities.bentley.com/products/hydraulics___hydrology/w/hydraulics_and_hydrology__wiki/8175.how-do-i-download-watergems-watercad-hammer-sewergems-sewercad-civilstorm-stormcad-pondpack-flowmaster-culvertmaster

    I've taken a screen shot of the fire flow report that I was generated by my computer, which you can find below, to make sure you are seeing the same thing. I have the report sorted by the fire flow iterations in descending order. In case it's hard read it looks like most of the nodes only take about 5 iterations to converge on a solution. There are only about 14 that take more than that and maybe 25 or so that take less. Is this what you're seeing too?

    You might also want to open example 5 found in the program files folder for WaterGEM/CAD "C:\Program Files (x86)\Bentley\WaterGEMS\Samples" and see if you are having similar issues running the automated fire flow scenario in that file.

    Regards,

    Mark

    Mark

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