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Darwin designer is not at all optimizing...

My branched network consists of near about 3000 junctions(nodes). I used Darwin designer for the above network with pipe dia varying from 15mm to 5000mm, results show that the Pressure at some nodes was as low as  -12000MWC and the highest being 340 MWC. When I imposed pressure restrictions it shows Feasibility issues or no valid data as input.

I manually assigned dia to the pipes and results were quite satisfactory (in terms of pressure and velocity, dia being in the range mentioned above). I want to know the reasons for this and what should possibly do for this??

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  • I took a quick look at the file and see several problems.

    You only have two design groups which means that all the pipes will either be of one size or another-only two sizes regardless of the flow. You really need to think about what it means for pipes to be in the same design group. They should serve the same population, be in series and carry roughly the same flow

    Why are you using Darwin Designer to size all those little branch pipes? They should be at some standard size and using optimization to solve them isn't going to do much for you.

    The way you would address this problem is to first not try to optimize all of those little branches. Just focus on a few groups of transmission mains which from one major branching point to the next.

    I suggest you read up about genetic algorithms in general for water system design. There are a few hundred papers out there on this topic. You'll realize that the way you are approaching the problem doesn't fit GA's. It's not a problem with Darwin; it is just the nature of GA's. There is a real art to setting up the problem. Most importantly it lies in setting up design groups.

    If I was addressing this problem, I would not use Darwin or any GA. Instead I would follow the simple steps I outlines in my previous response.

    Answer Verified By: Sushma Choure 

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  • I took a quick look at the file and see several problems.

    You only have two design groups which means that all the pipes will either be of one size or another-only two sizes regardless of the flow. You really need to think about what it means for pipes to be in the same design group. They should serve the same population, be in series and carry roughly the same flow

    Why are you using Darwin Designer to size all those little branch pipes? They should be at some standard size and using optimization to solve them isn't going to do much for you.

    The way you would address this problem is to first not try to optimize all of those little branches. Just focus on a few groups of transmission mains which from one major branching point to the next.

    I suggest you read up about genetic algorithms in general for water system design. There are a few hundred papers out there on this topic. You'll realize that the way you are approaching the problem doesn't fit GA's. It's not a problem with Darwin; it is just the nature of GA's. There is a real art to setting up the problem. Most importantly it lies in setting up design groups.

    If I was addressing this problem, I would not use Darwin or any GA. Instead I would follow the simple steps I outlines in my previous response.

    Answer Verified By: Sushma Choure 

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