Hi everyone,
Does anybody knows if MicroStation works in MAC OS?
Thanks
Bill Prassas
I run MicroStation in Bootcamp and also have both Fusion and Parallels. Fusion has display issues with Microstation line styles (1-7) . Parallels has come a long way and I now prefer it over Fusion but Bootcamp will give you the best performance. If I'm mainly going to working in MicroStation all day I will use Bootcamp with XP. The iMac actually make for an excellent PC.
My recommendation are.
1) First thing I do is dump the apple mouse and get a good 2 button corded mouse with scroll wheel. I love Apples stuff but their mice don't work well with MicroStation. Especially if you use a 2 button cord for snapping.
2) If your working with large files or 3D rendering bootcamp is the way to go. I prefer XP because it has a smaller footprint.
3) For smaller files or quick reviewing I use Parallels.
4) Set up a VM machine and install MS on it. DON'T use the bootcamp patition from Parallels, if you do you take a huge hit on start-up times both in Parallels and Bootcamp.
5) Select server may report 2 licenses being use. Bentley is aware their software falsely reports the number of licenses being used on some VM's.
Cheers,
DavidG
David,
I'm considering running Microstation on one of our Macs. All these comments on using Macs have been really helpful.
Have you heard more from Bentley if they've solved the license reporting issue?
I have no experience running Windows on a Mac so just wondering why you would have Bootcamp, Parallels and Fusion? Why not stick to one?
Thanks,
Mary
Mary M
Jon, where there is a will...
Obviously, if the customer base does not request it, they will not do it.
All I am saying is that, as a Mac convert (yes call me foolish, I don't mind paying more for my beautiful hardware) I wish I could forego having to install Windows for just the one program.
Stefano
Unknown said:Hi,I do engineering, drafting, Mstn customization & vba programming, IT, and interaction with clients. My oversized desk is already too crowded and I definitely don't want a second computer on my desk. The one computer I have is running Microstation, email, our contact/project management software, and Microsoft Office constantly. It'd be hard to do that on a stand-alone operating system.Good idea, but I don't think it'd work for everyone.--Robert
Unknown said:There is functionality in Windows that doesn't exist in OSX and Linux. Equally, there is functionality in OSX and Linux that doesn't exist in Windows. That makes it hard for a large product like MicroStation to be portable easily between operating systems.
Unknown said:Companies develop products as a result of customer demand, not because a competitor has done something similar.
Here's another thought: Does anyone know of a Boot-loader/ Memory Manager that would allow two operating systems to boot up into separate memory spaces? Something like that might be able to give complete access to both Windows and something else without having to reboot to use each OS and without having to run one inside the other. Each "Desktop" could be swapped in and out of memory as needed, hopefully with the ability to utilize a clipboard and linking between the two and so on.
Just food for thought.
Larry, just give it time, with devices becoming smaller and internet connection becoming common you will find many application will be delivered via. the "cloud". Software developers, probably including Bentley, will provide, as a service, the application hosted from their servers. There will probably also be "cloud" service providers able to run your application no matter what O.S. it requires and deliver it remotely it to any device. This is already being used in the workplace, on the LAN, for CAD a well as other applications.
The benefits are many:
- The workstation needs very little power to display remote graphics
- Network traffic is reduced to streaming graphics and commands.
- The data never leaves the server room where it is secure.
- A few servers will be able to serve dozens of workstations and perform load balancing to make the best use of hardware.
It seems to me that computing is going full circle and returning to main-frames with dumb terminals (phones, tablets, projectors & anything else you can dream of).
Solidworks seems to be entertaining the idea of cloud based CAD. It has left customers scrambling to find other software they can use.
How are you going to customise your Microstation if you don't even have the software!?
As for native MS on OSX/POSIX, Bentley are going the opposite way. Instead of adopting multi-platform libraries they have adopted windows only ones (DirectX replacing OpenGL). No way in hell.
Unknown said: The benefits [of cloud computing] are many: The workstation needs very little power to display remote graphics Network traffic is reduced to streaming graphics and commands The data never leaves the server room where it is secure A few servers will be able to serve dozens of workstations and perform load balancing to make the best use of hardware
The benefits [of cloud computing] are many:
That reads unfortunately like somebody's marketing propaganda. Networked graphic workstations were first marketed twenty years ago, as low-cost terminals attached to a local server. Performance and financial payback failed to match expectations. As time can testify, they didn't survive.
If using MicroStation (or any other similar application) were like watching TV, that might be true. But MicroStation is interactive.
Really?
That's OK then. Somebody obviously worked that out pretty carefully. Do you recall the prediction of Thomas Watson, Chairman of IBM in 1943? "I think there is a world market for maybe five computers."
There's no such thing as a free lunch.
This cloud provider believes that they would have to service only a few dozen workstations. That doesn't seem like a sound financial proposition. What would the owners of those few dozen workstations have to pay in service fees for a secure, maintained, server? Just because the server is 'in the cloud' doesn't make it free of all the requirements of a ground-based server and its attendant IT staff.
One server should be sufficient for dozens of workstations.
Cloud computing makes sense only when there are thousands or millions of clients. If they have only a few dozen clients then it's financially unsound. If they really have thousands or millions of clients then they will also have hundreds of servers to service those clients.
Hundreds of servers will require an army of attendees. No doubt some of them will be well-versed in load balancing, others in network management and yet others in data storage. People with those arcane capabilities don't come cheap.
I seem to have strayed far off the original topic of this thread. Let's return to Mac OS. If anyone wants to further the conversation about cloud computing, please start a new thread.
Happy New Year!
Jon Summers LA Solutions
Regards, Jon Summers LA Solutions