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Bugged by Powerdraft - A number of questions

Architect by trade i've come accross a number of issues and problems that seem to crop up a bit too often. Any tips or solutions to any would be much apprechiated. Apologies for there being so many, i work with Microstation Powerdraft XM "alot". I apprechiate many of these may just be inate bugs that occur with software coding and as such may well be patched in later versions of P.D. but as a firm we don't have the time to allocate for a system wide update just yet.

  1. When copying a reference you keep the original selected not the newly created one (seems counter intuative).
  2. The text box in V8i delays when create before allowing text input (as if its breifly waiting for something to be checked first)
  3. When typing in a text box the first letter sometimes appears as random font type
  4. rasters dissapear when zooming in close
  5. pdfs when attached as raster severely slow performance compared to JPG or similar
  6. referencing drawing into itself can cause crash even if nesting is turned off
  7. snap choice is attached to drawing and not UI layout of the indivudual computer (makes different user styles and habits hard)
  8. i can draw smartline, edit and drop it, but can't re-connect it or add to one/join together back into a smart line (autocad has this option)
  9. when selecting a raster in a drawing you can use the move parrallel set distance to 0 to create a copy of that raster but all other normal manipulate tools don't work on rasters (such as copy)
  10. intelli-trim can easily and randomly switch between Quick/Advance & trim/extend with litttle concious input
  11. There is no obvious way to directly open the "Named Groups" popout-window as there is for raster/layermanager/etc in the Primary Tools toolbox
  12. place Smartline has no option for controlling its fill if the line is closed - its controlled by the last input into any other tool that allows input of fill
  13. combining multiple screens, multiple users & multipe views causes odd arrangements of view windows depending on the users screens & setup - the number of views & their location are approximated based on the previous user of the drawing rather than a default preset by the individual user.
  14. It is hard to tell why but attaching references occasionally randomly changes the over-ride colour for the levels in that reference
  15. Seemingly randomly, sometimes the only way to de-select a line you have to right click - select all then right click select non.
  16. on the utilities-macro-MicroStation Basic popout window for Macros (the only way i can find to list my macros) it has no option for delete.
  17. though it may exist, i can find no way to macro changing the background between black & white apart from Preferences-View Options
  18. once a closed object is drawn, to add or remove its fill  the only way i see is to navigate through Element Info-General-Fill, when a simple option could be placed in the Attributes toolbar
  19. in a text box all or non of the text can be underlined - although if partial underlining has been setup in word or other similar word processing programs and pasted into the text box it works.
  20. ammendments to print attributes & many other print options are only kept for the duration of the print popout window - it would be nice to have a simple way to keep the ammended print attribute options - at least within the life of that drawing session or having to ammend perminantly the config files (if even possible)
  21. large areas of associated pattern hatch make a drawing very slow to relax, non-associated or dropping the associated pattern hatch makes the draw work far faster but greatly increase the file size - not a terrific choice.
  22. Preferences, Config & Colour Table popout menus have a "X" to close the window but only the "Cancel" or "OK" buttons actually closes the window, similarly with Views 1-8
  23. on occasion, re-editing text, any new text will appear slightly bigger than the rest of the text in the textbox
  24.  when drawing a spline or outlining an area by points, you can move the screen up/down or right/left with the mouse wheel  + CTRL or ALT and still use drawing aids like ENTER for "Smart Lock". however if you do the same but use the middle mouse button to click & hold for panning then hit ENTER for "Smart Lock" the input will default to the "Element Selection" (or whatever default options input for the current command), just tab-ing trough the different options rather than activating or deactivating Smart Lock.
  25.  even on the most basic drawings on a decent spec computer flood fill will take too long
  26.  References have their own seperate clip & mask buttons, rasters have one for clip that can be set tomask.
  27. fences can't be used with Smartlock
  28. block fence can only ever be a rectangle - no edit option apart from changing to a different sized rectangle
  29. locks currently on only show briefly - often have to press a lock once or twice to see what state a lock is.
  30. hatching with fill can pickup objects - sometimes cells - despite being turned off
  31. frozen and locked layers can easily accidentally be unfrozen and unlocked if selected from "active menu" in Attributes tab or hitting "set active" on right click menu in level manager.
  32. In raster manager its near impossible to assign a "Description" or "Locigal Name" in any obvious way

Many thanks

Art

3 Replies

  • Thank you for taking the time to review the product and make such a detailed list.  It is hard to responded to a list of this type as it has so many topics and the thread will possibly splinter into many different directions.  To get a better responce from the group I would advise posting one topic per post in the future.

    With that being said I will try to respond to the items below as best I can.

    Artemis
    1. When copying a reference you keep the original selected not the newly created one (seems counter intuative).


    This is consistent with the copy command and basically goes off the idea of you are making a copy or multiple copies of the original item that  you selected.
    • The text box in V8i delays when create before allowing text input (as if its breifly waiting for something to be checked first)

    I suggest contacting SELECT support to review this issue. 
     
    • When typing in a text box the first letter sometimes appears as random font type

    I suggest contacting SELECT support to review this issue.
    • rasters dissapear when zooming in close

    I suggest contacting SELECT support to review this issue.
    • pdfs when attached as raster severely slow performance compared to JPG or similar

    I suggest contacting SELECT support to review this issue.
    • referencing drawing into itself can cause crash even if nesting is turned off

    I suggest contacting SELECT support to review this issue.
    • snap choice is attached to drawing and not UI layout of the indivudual computer (makes different user styles and habits hard)

    Try using the following variable, let us know your results.
    MS_SNAPMODE_SOURCE: Where to read default snap mode and multi-snaps settings from. Possible values are 0 for the current dgn file or 1 for the userprefs file. The default is 0.
    • i can draw smartline, edit and drop it, but can't re-connect it or add to one/join together back into a smart line (autocad has this option)

    Does the Create Complex chain tool not work for you?  You can find it on the menu bar as TOOLS>GROUPS>CREATE COMPLEX CHAIN
    • when selecting a raster in a drawing you can use the move parrallel set distance to 0 to create a copy of that raster but all other normal manipulate tools don't work on rasters (such as copy)

    This is odd as I am able to use all the manipulate tools with a raster element.  Will you please report what version number you are using?
     
    • intelli-trim can easily and randomly switch between Quick/Advance & trim/extend with litttle concious input

    I suggest contacting SELECT support to review this issue.
    • There is no obvious way to directly open the "Named Groups" popout-window as there is for raster/layermanager/etc in the Primary Tools toolbox

    "Named Groups" is not on the Primary Tools toolbox, please contact support to file a CR if you think this needs to be added.  I would also advise creating a CR post here on BE communities to gather some user support for the feature.
    • place Smartline has no option for controlling its fill if the line is closed - its controlled by the last input into any other tool that allows input of fill

    When you move the cursor back over the start point of the Smart Line you should see the Tool Settings change to allow close options.  ALT + the underline letter allows you control of the item.
    • combining multiple screens, multiple users & multipe views causes odd arrangements of view windows depending on the users screens & setup - the number of views & their location are approximated based on the previous user of the drawing rather than a default preset by the individual user.
    • It is hard to tell why but attaching references occasionally randomly changes the over-ride colour for the levels in that reference

    I suggest contacting SELECT support to review this issue.
    • Seemingly randomly, sometimes the only way to de-select a line you have to right click - select all then right click select non.

    I suggest contacting SELECT support to review this issue.
    • on the utilities-macro-MicroStation Basic popout window for Macros (the only way i can find to list my macros) it has no option for delete.

    You are correct there is no ability to delete on this dialog.  If you click the "Browse..." button, this will open the standard windows dialog and you and delete from it, simply highlight the file right click delete or press the delete button.
    • though it may exist, i can find no way to macro changing the background between black & white apart from Preferences-View Options
    • once a closed object is drawn, to add or remove its fill  the only way i see is to navigate through Element Info-General-Fill, when a simple option could be placed in the Attributes toolbar

    Tools > Change Attributes > Change Element Fill, this tool should do what you are asking
    • in a text box all or non of the text can be underlined - although if partial underlining has been setup in word or other similar word processing programs and pasted into the text box it works.

    When placing text, in the Tool Settings dialog turn off "Apply changes to all text", this will allow you to partially underline something.
    • ammendments to print attributes & many other print options are only kept for the duration of the print popout window - it would be nice to have a simple way to keep the ammended print attribute options - at least within the life of that drawing session or having to ammend perminantly the config files (if even possible)

    Please clarify this request more.  I think you are asking for Print properties to be model specifc but am not 100% sure that is your request.
    • large areas of associated pattern hatch make a drawing very slow to relax, non-associated or dropping the associated pattern hatch makes the draw work far faster but greatly increase the file size - not a terrific choice.

    I suggest contacting SELECT support to review this issue.
    • Preferences, Config & Colour Table popout menus have a "X" to close the window but only the "Cancel" or "OK" buttons actually closes the window, similarly with Views 1-8

    Just to clarify this. Are you asking for modal dialogs to include the X (cancel) option?
    • on occasion, re-editing text, any new text will appear slightly bigger than the rest of the text in the textbox

    I suggest contacting SELECT support to review this issue.
    •  when drawing a spline or outlining an area by points, you can move the screen up/down or right/left with the mouse wheel  + CTRL or ALT and still use drawing aids like ENTER for "Smart Lock". however if you do the same but use the middle mouse button to click & hold for panning then hit ENTER for "Smart Lock" the input will default to the "Element Selection" (or whatever default options input for the current command), just tab-ing trough the different options rather than activating or deactivating Smart Lock.

    I am unable to reproduce this.  Will you provide exact steps to do so?  Have you tried to do a -restoredefaults so that you can validate you don't have any corrupt user files?
    •  even on the most basic drawings on a decent spec computer flood fill will take too long

    I suggest contacting SELECT support to review this issue.
    •  References have their own seperate clip & mask buttons, rasters have one for clip that can be set tomask.

    I agree, we are trying to make similar tools have similar abilities.  Raster will eventually separate these into two tools.
    • fences can't be used with Smartlock

    I think you are asking for Accudraw to be present when using the fence tool?  If so give Accudraw focus and press "O" and it will appear and repond to the fence placement.
    • block fence can only ever be a rectangle - no edit option apart from changing to a different sized rectangle

    Please contact support to file a CR if you think this needs to be added.  I would also advise creating a CR post here on BE communities to gather some user support for the feature.
    • locks currently on only show briefly - often have to press a lock once or twice to see what state a lock is.
    • hatching with fill can pickup objects - sometimes cells - despite being turned off
    • frozen and locked layers can easily accidentally be unfrozen and unlocked if selected from "active menu" in Attributes tab or hitting "set active" on right click menu in level manager.

    Yes Frozen Levels can be set active and this does unfreeze them.  Making a level active should not effect its lock state.  If you are finding this behavior different please contact support to work with you on a resolution.
    • In raster manager its near impossible to assign a "Description" or "Locigal Name" in any obvious way

    This can be done at attachment time through the properties dialog, it can be done in the level manager by slow clicking the field for Edit, or it can be done in Element Information.  What is your definition of obvious?  Please help me understand how you would like to do this.
  • Best,
       ~John Frampton
       Product Manager MicroStation, PowerDraft, View
       Bentley 

      

  • #17 - no way to macro changing the background between black & white apart from Preferences-View Options

    Perhaps this is what you're looking for:

    http://communities.bentley.com/communities/other_communities/askinga/w/askinga/change-the-view-window-background-colour-with-this-macro.aspx

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    #27- fences can't be used with Smartlock

    If you're referring to AccuSnap, then perhaps one of these tips might be helpful:

    http://communities.bentley.com/search/SearchResults.aspx?q=asking+fence+accusnap

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    Best Regards,

    ~Inga

    Pick the tool.  Adjust the settings. Follow the prompts.


  • In addition to what John and Inga replied with, some of the things you mention seem to be related to graphics... make sure that you have the latest-and-greatest graphics drivers on your computers/workstation. If you do, you might want to take a look at www.bentley.com/mstnbenchmark.


    This is a test

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