I was talking with Todd at SCDOT about his post for a ProjectWise Admin here in the Everything Else forum. I suggested that he should have posted his request on the ProjectWise forum as that is where I would expect to see it. Todd told me that he did post the notice on the ProjectWise forum but that it was moved here after a day or so. That surprised me.
Maybe I'm a bit odd, but I probably visit the ProjectWise forum a few times a week, or a few times a day if I'm waiting for a reply. I'm lucky if I jump over to the Everything Else forum once a month. Maybe that's because ProjectWise is a little "out there", even within the Bentley community which in itself is a little "out there". I'm sure there are many Bentley applications that are somewhat segregated and where admins of those applications tend to be singularly focused within their forums.
The sad fact is that Todd's ProjectWise Admin position posted in this forum only generated one reply. I don't think that is representative of the ProjectWise community and/or the current economy. There simply must be more that one ProjectWise admin within our community looking for work. I'm also somewhat sure that you could replace the word "ProjectWise" with 50 other Bentley applications and the same would be true.
All this to say that perhaps it would be beneficial to create a forum that would have both job openings and jobs wanted. I don't know the first thing about Autodesk's community, but it took me all of 2 minutes to go to their site and find dozens of job positions under their Classified forum.
In this historically poor economy I would like to see this community do everything possibly to match unique Bentley skills with open job offerings. I understand that Bentley doesn't prefer granular forums, but I think in this case it can only help in these difficult times.
If things get any worse at WSDOT, I might appreciate the effort first hand...
The larger issue here is one of the reasons why the Communities isn't what it could be: the lack of user-driven organization of content.
I don't see why you can't start a classified forum, or any type of forum header, or whatever you want...
As you said, you had an easy time finding what you needed in the Autodesk community...if it was AUGI, one of the reasons is it's not Autodesk-driven: AUGI is an independent group. Definitely not the "let's control everything" attitude from some (although they have had their moments lately)
I hope you can succeed in creating things like a Classified forum, or change rules to multiple post in multiple forums....I know I haven't been able to change policy here, no matter how much sense it makes for the good of the Community. Good luck!
Well said. +1
Please note that I post here on a voluntary basis and am not a Bentley employee.
Sticking to the original topic, Scott, we hear you... we really do. Your post does bring up a very good point -- how to communicate information to you that you might be interested in. There are various ways to do that now (some of them have been discussed, blogged about, and covered extensively on this site) and there are others that are coming (in fact, if you happen to be going to Be Together, I may be showing some of that in the LiveZone... wink, wink, nudge, nudge :)
The intent of the "main" areas (e.g. Solutions, Products, Bentley Programs, Communities, Help, etc.) of Be Communities is primarily to help organize information by context more than by subject matter (e.g. Product-related technical content in the Products area, Solutions-related content in the Solutions area, etc.) Care is made to NOT be draconian about this and provide flexibility to "go with the flow", so to speak, when the need to do so becomes obvious (with a good helping of commonsense thrown in, too :). Granted, what constitutes context and subject may seem subjective to some, and some may express "who moved my cheese" surprise, but trying to do both often ends up with confusion (I ask that you trust me on that one, as I personally see it numerous times every day).
The idea of having a "Classified" community has merit, although full disclosure, we did originally have that in the original design for the site and decided not to do it, at least until there was necessary and sufficient reason for it (remembering the above "flexibility" aspect). That said, we believe there are very good, established ways to "connect people with jobs", and are looking into various options there.
AFA the number of replies to any particular posting are concerned... that is something that can often be misleading. Some folks shy away from contributing in public arenas (something else that I have experienced a good deal of). This can be ESPECIALLY true in instances where job-related inquiries are involved -- I think you might understand the reasons why.
Phil: glad you are showing something at LiveZone. Is what you are showing advertised? Is it a session or impromptu gathering? Where would I find information on it?
Just for clarity, I understand that Todd only received one job application from his post on this forum. That's what I was referring to when I said that there should be more interest in a P/W admin job opening from this community. Especially a job opening in beautiful South Carolina.
Thanks for the consideration Phil, I wish I was able to attend BE this year but our state still has travel restrictions. For now I'm blessed to still be employed.