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<?xml-stylesheet type="text/xsl" href="https://communities.bentley.com/cfs-file/__key/system/syndication/rss.xsl" media="screen"?><rss version="2.0" xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/" xmlns:slash="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/slash/" xmlns:wfw="http://wellformedweb.org/CommentAPI/"><channel><title>can selectserver restrict usage to number of licenses owned ?</title><link>https://communities.bentley.com/communities/other_communities/licensing_cloud_and_web_services/f/forum/81970/can-selectserver-restrict-usage-to-number-of-licenses-owned</link><description>Somewhere in the past, selectserver used to limit usage. This was awesome! It kept us in compliance and kept our rep from calling. But maybe all good things do come to an end. Our users need to experience denial. Maybe version 9 of selectserver will bring</description><dc:language>en-US</dc:language><generator>Telligent Community 12</generator><item><title>RE: can selectserver restrict usage to number of licenses owned ?</title><link>https://communities.bentley.com/thread/332333?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Tue, 28 Jul 2015 12:46:43 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">6dad98f5-dbc9-4c4d-a9ba-e9da8dc6aa8e:1bea084d-6789-46c4-9b1b-ffcaec1fb1ff</guid><dc:creator>stuartw</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;[quote user=&amp;quot;DavidFradley&amp;quot;]Let&amp;#39;s not be disingenuous here: the real objective is not to &amp;quot;optimize effective use of the software,&amp;quot; it&amp;#39;s to milk the consumer. Y&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;p&gt;Another very true statement. I&amp;#39;ve said this before but this licence model is not about us, the customers, but about making more money for Bentley.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: can selectserver restrict usage to number of licenses owned ?</title><link>https://communities.bentley.com/thread/326166?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Wed, 03 Jun 2015 05:46:42 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">6dad98f5-dbc9-4c4d-a9ba-e9da8dc6aa8e:fad5e3b5-9676-4995-8294-91a4d52ae910</guid><dc:creator>Maksim Stankevic</dc:creator><description>No, it will only count 1 usage. Microstation licenses are counted per hostname. You can start as many MS sessions in different user accounts as you need but there will be only 1 peak usage for MS.&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: can selectserver restrict usage to number of licenses owned ?</title><link>https://communities.bentley.com/thread/326144?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Wed, 03 Jun 2015 00:17:34 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">6dad98f5-dbc9-4c4d-a9ba-e9da8dc6aa8e:879af655-340c-4fb4-a7d9-272bcb418232</guid><dc:creator>scape2</dc:creator><description>If a person runs 2 sessions of Microstation simultaneously on the one computer, is that calculated as 2 licenses ?&lt;br /&gt;
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If someone leaves Microstation running and locks their screen, and then some else logs onto the computer (via Windows 7 &amp;#39;Switch User&amp;#39; option) and starts Microstation . That is, 2 sessions of Microstation running simultaneously on the one computer, but under different user ids - is that calculated as 2 licenses ?&lt;br /&gt;
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Thanks&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: can selectserver restrict usage to number of licenses owned ?</title><link>https://communities.bentley.com/thread/325778?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Fri, 29 May 2015 19:14:36 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">6dad98f5-dbc9-4c4d-a9ba-e9da8dc6aa8e:92fd7524-fa04-4027-9945-c0fe98b657d7</guid><dc:creator>Glenn Fernandes</dc:creator><description>We have made a change that should result in the email notifications returning on June 1st.  If this continues to be an issue please respond to this Forum thread so that we have the current status and can investigate anything else that may be related to this issue. &lt;br /&gt;
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Glenn&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: can selectserver restrict usage to number of licenses owned ?</title><link>https://communities.bentley.com/thread/325696?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Fri, 29 May 2015 11:21:40 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">6dad98f5-dbc9-4c4d-a9ba-e9da8dc6aa8e:667abd54-3b8c-4b54-8021-b8caab8407f1</guid><dc:creator>Jeffrey Pangburn</dc:creator><description>Bentley, if you can use a 3rd party email sender ... why not contract with a 3rd party vendor to report real-time license usage?  They are out there as we have been marketed by a firm to try and address this customer alienating licensing model you have created and choose to continue to sell as an &amp;quot;improvement&amp;quot;.  By the way, how many users have reminded you that Bentley had the courtesy to include this simple feature 15 years ago and recently chose to remove it &amp;quot;to help us&amp;quot;?  Let Ron Bentley know this is yet another reduction in Bentley&amp;#39;s customer service...pretty soon people will be comparing you to Windows 8.&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: can selectserver restrict usage to number of licenses owned ?</title><link>https://communities.bentley.com/thread/325665?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Fri, 29 May 2015 07:02:15 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">6dad98f5-dbc9-4c4d-a9ba-e9da8dc6aa8e:747d2226-f1fc-4527-b092-b8fdfa8c36b5</guid><dc:creator>Maksim Stankevic</dc:creator><description>SelectServer development team have found the reason of this issue, it is related to 3rd party email sender that we use for SelectServer email notifications. The fix is on the way however we do not have a date.&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: can selectserver restrict usage to number of licenses owned ?</title><link>https://communities.bentley.com/thread/325663?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Fri, 29 May 2015 06:37:34 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">6dad98f5-dbc9-4c4d-a9ba-e9da8dc6aa8e:4decbea7-9759-47d4-8963-571c7c3bac64</guid><dc:creator>Oto</dc:creator><description>Email reports are very unreliable.  They seem to be sent in batch and often with big delays. Also if notification emails are enabled then it sends all historic notifications, hundreds of emails at first. According to Bentley this is working as designed(WAD) but I asked for change it (TFS#122995)  as it obviously is not what is expected.&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: can selectserver restrict usage to number of licenses owned ?</title><link>https://communities.bentley.com/thread/325650?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Fri, 29 May 2015 00:23:18 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">6dad98f5-dbc9-4c4d-a9ba-e9da8dc6aa8e:c0b474c0-c2a0-49c9-a16b-adc0a3c10893</guid><dc:creator>scape2</dc:creator><description>I have defined 3 License Usage Reports in Selectserver. So I get an email with a report stating what the License usage is, which allows me to avoid over usage charges. Once again, this is not working. All I ever get is a response saying&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;quot;Its an ongoing issue, defect#155641 is already raised. Selectserver development team is working on it.&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
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When is this problem going to fixed ?&lt;br /&gt;
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It&amp;#39;s not right that we get hit with Over Usage Charges when Bentley can&amp;#39;t even provide a reliable service to report to the user what their usage has been. It would be ok if it missed a day occasionally, but I&amp;#39;ve had no reports for over a week.&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: can selectserver restrict usage to number of licenses owned ?</title><link>https://communities.bentley.com/thread/324733?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Wed, 20 May 2015 17:31:50 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">6dad98f5-dbc9-4c4d-a9ba-e9da8dc6aa8e:c57bd3b5-d38e-4d12-9cc2-b07301df75ed</guid><dc:creator>Jeffrey Pangburn</dc:creator><description>We agree 100%.  The &amp;quot;canned&amp;quot; response to your initial question (that is dated from 2012) is not a true response.  What we are asking for is a simple software notification to our users at the time they open the software that by proceeding forward, they will need to incur additional cost on behalf of our Company.  The users of CADD software do not have this purchasing authority and are therefore violating Company policy by incurring costs without approval but have no way of doing that due to Bentley&amp;#39;s choice to ignore this issue.  It should be a VERY simple solution but Bentley chooses not to in order to &amp;quot;entrap&amp;quot; us into incurring additional costs.  &lt;br /&gt;
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We have had to waste effort every Quarter arguing with a Regional Sales Representative, then a Director of Regional Sales, and even his Supervisor.  So Bentley, with the additional time spent arguing this unfortunate licensing model, the new question is how does this fulfill your stated &amp;quot;premise that licensing should not interrupt the legitimate user from getting his work done&amp;quot; ?  (BTW - the time spent on this reply interrupted me from getting my true work done).&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: can selectserver restrict usage to number of licenses owned ?</title><link>https://communities.bentley.com/thread/324273?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Sat, 16 May 2015 02:05:30 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">6dad98f5-dbc9-4c4d-a9ba-e9da8dc6aa8e:fcafa000-ca58-4c18-ac1e-c24c0258a039</guid><dc:creator>scape2</dc:creator><description>Your  5 minutes of design work actually could mean 2 hours of usage, if your started work at say 10:58 am&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: can selectserver restrict usage to number of licenses owned ?</title><link>https://communities.bentley.com/thread/324158?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Fri, 15 May 2015 13:44:52 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">6dad98f5-dbc9-4c4d-a9ba-e9da8dc6aa8e:b66e6fc2-91ba-4c42-ad73-d9316402e991</guid><dc:creator>DavidFradley</dc:creator><description>They can figure it out. They want it to be cumbersome and difficult to restrict license usage. They want it to be as impractical and confusing as possible.&lt;br /&gt;
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This isn&amp;#39;t a programming or &amp;quot;just can&amp;#39;t be done&amp;quot; issue, it&amp;#39;s a business decision. And while Bentley employees can put as much of a positive spin on it as they want, for most firms and endusers, they end up overpaying and underusing.&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: can selectserver restrict usage to number of licenses owned ?</title><link>https://communities.bentley.com/thread/324156?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Fri, 15 May 2015 13:36:01 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">6dad98f5-dbc9-4c4d-a9ba-e9da8dc6aa8e:8c2703c9-0bce-45ad-a4a4-7acaab68eb32</guid><dc:creator>DavidFradley</dc:creator><description>Let&amp;#39;s not be disingenuous here: the real objective is not to &amp;quot;optimize effective use of the software,&amp;quot; it&amp;#39;s to milk the consumer. You can spin it however you want, but the fact that if I do 5 minutes of design work I&amp;#39;m checked out for an hour of usage makes it pretty obvious &amp;quot;trust licensing&amp;quot; isn&amp;#39;t tailored for OUR benefit.&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: can selectserver restrict usage to number of licenses owned ?</title><link>https://communities.bentley.com/thread/324134?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Fri, 15 May 2015 11:08:57 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">6dad98f5-dbc9-4c4d-a9ba-e9da8dc6aa8e:746d91e8-bd81-421e-a14b-d3da032c99b9</guid><dc:creator>Oto</dc:creator><description>Can selectserver restrict usage? Answer to this question yes it can - &lt;a href="http://communities.bentley.com/products/licensing/f/275813/p/106005/319371"&gt;communities.bentley.com/.../319371&lt;/a&gt; as similar option is already implemented in NON-SELECT activation server.&lt;br /&gt;
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All we need is change the restriction to 1-hour bucket and change restriction to not allow check-out after check-in for next hour. Together with &amp;quot;restrict to checkout only&amp;quot; switch in SS server it would limit most overages.&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: can selectserver restrict usage to number of licenses owned ?</title><link>https://communities.bentley.com/thread/324131?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Fri, 15 May 2015 10:29:00 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">6dad98f5-dbc9-4c4d-a9ba-e9da8dc6aa8e:3c4e5ec5-a642-47c2-988b-f8b4576da010</guid><dc:creator>Maksim Stankevic</dc:creator><description>That is correct Oto, in case of check-outs server time is used because the operation is real-time.&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: can selectserver restrict usage to number of licenses owned ?</title><link>https://communities.bentley.com/thread/324125?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Fri, 15 May 2015 09:49:19 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">6dad98f5-dbc9-4c4d-a9ba-e9da8dc6aa8e:dfb4f2da-b22c-49e3-a7aa-4bf2da0da3b4</guid><dc:creator>Oto</dc:creator><description>Is it true also when doing check-out? I have observed that checkout start time uses server time and not local time which is of course logical as for check-out there is need to communicate with server in real-time.&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: can selectserver restrict usage to number of licenses owned ?</title><link>https://communities.bentley.com/thread/323839?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Wed, 13 May 2015 07:24:53 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">6dad98f5-dbc9-4c4d-a9ba-e9da8dc6aa8e:772bd612-97ab-4889-8170-3c482d843b5a</guid><dc:creator>Maksim Stankevic</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;No. As I mentioned time is converted to UTC time. If you and your colleague run the software within the same hour in different time zones (let&amp;#39;s say one usage is from 8:05 am&amp;nbsp;to 8:15&amp;nbsp;am GMT and the other one is from 10:30 am to 10:40 am GMT+2, in reality usages are 15 minutes apart), after conversion usage times will fall into the same UTC hour (which is in this case 8:00 am 9:00 am UTC) making peak usage equal to 2.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: can selectserver restrict usage to number of licenses owned ?</title><link>https://communities.bentley.com/thread/323837?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Wed, 13 May 2015 07:12:13 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">6dad98f5-dbc9-4c4d-a9ba-e9da8dc6aa8e:de5e3b63-e404-4f74-85a5-cf75f4f0dcc1</guid><dc:creator>scape2</dc:creator><description>That would mean if 2 people were running the software at the same time, but in different time zones, 2 hours apart - then only 1 license usage would be recorded. That is, I ran the software from 10.30-10:50am and a person in the other office ran the software from 8.30-8.50am - they would not be calculated in the same hourly license period ?  Is that correct ?&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: can selectserver restrict usage to number of licenses owned ?</title><link>https://communities.bentley.com/thread/323831?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Wed, 13 May 2015 06:46:03 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">6dad98f5-dbc9-4c4d-a9ba-e9da8dc6aa8e:cd690d2d-93f7-4bd4-b03d-fe50e5e44112</guid><dc:creator>Maksim Stankevic</dc:creator><description>Time of the usage is recorded based on user machine time and converted to UTC. It does not depend on the Server time.&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: can selectserver restrict usage to number of licenses owned ?</title><link>https://communities.bentley.com/thread/323817?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Wed, 13 May 2015 00:30:00 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">6dad98f5-dbc9-4c4d-a9ba-e9da8dc6aa8e:9859c887-3b8d-445a-95d9-4d6722d6ad30</guid><dc:creator>scape2</dc:creator><description>Is the start/stop time for license usage based on the time of the SelectServer or the time on the workstation. For example, on my side of the country it&amp;#39;s 10:27am. On the other side it&amp;#39;s 8:27am. Do I need to be consider that time difference in my usage calculations ?&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: can selectserver restrict usage to number of licenses owned ?</title><link>https://communities.bentley.com/thread/323658?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Tue, 12 May 2015 05:08:37 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">6dad98f5-dbc9-4c4d-a9ba-e9da8dc6aa8e:1be45a87-4653-4c95-9010-c94631dd0285</guid><dc:creator>BWiT</dc:creator><description>I&amp;#39;m still really annoyed about this! We have been discussing this with Bentley for years now but all we get is platitudes and useless advice about checking out a license etc! To their credit, they pointed us to a third party tool that enables us to restrict application usage. However, it is an additional cost! &lt;br /&gt;
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Can someone from Bentley please answer this: Is it really that difficult to add a switch that allows us to turn on restrictive licensing?! Particularly when this functionality was already built into the product! Someone actually had to remove the code! Just leave it there and allow us (the customer) to choose!&lt;br /&gt;
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Based on our analysis, we have had to keep our license count artificially high to avoid getting 1 QTL let alone 4! Completely ridiculous! Its not just my personal view that trust licensing and particularly the most recent change to QTL&amp;#39;s, is clearly designed to raise revenue! &lt;br /&gt;
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This is part of the reason that we are moving to Autodesk.&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: can selectserver restrict usage to number of licenses owned ?</title><link>https://communities.bentley.com/thread/323391?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Fri, 08 May 2015 00:52:32 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">6dad98f5-dbc9-4c4d-a9ba-e9da8dc6aa8e:34e1da53-7f3f-4989-ab72-a82311618729</guid><dc:creator>scape2</dc:creator><description>I understand how some companies (with lots of licenses) could find this policy useful. But others where Bentley software is a small part of the business and hence have a small number of licenses (in my case 2), over usage charges could get very expensive. It should simply be an option for a company to enable or completely disable over usage - make it so the software won&amp;#39;t even start if the SelectServer does not respond.&lt;br /&gt;
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If the option was there before, then obviously it&amp;#39;s achievable.&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: can selectserver restrict usage to number of licenses owned ?</title><link>https://communities.bentley.com/thread/323340?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Thu, 07 May 2015 16:38:59 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">6dad98f5-dbc9-4c4d-a9ba-e9da8dc6aa8e:2c632e46-a6f9-4705-8b20-29d54d310723</guid><dc:creator>DonB_SE</dc:creator><description>Jeremy,&lt;br /&gt;
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Do you all see how ridiculous this is?&lt;br /&gt;
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Your own page on limiting use(the second link in your post) shows two options that are worse than the old method of being notified that all licenses are in use and the third option listed to use a 3rd party software to limit the use is completely absurd. If a third party software developer can figure out how to limit our use why can&amp;#39;t Bentley?????&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: can selectserver restrict usage to number of licenses owned ?</title><link>https://communities.bentley.com/thread/323339?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Thu, 07 May 2015 16:34:05 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">6dad98f5-dbc9-4c4d-a9ba-e9da8dc6aa8e:402e21e3-8027-4711-bbec-0c22a01613c9</guid><dc:creator>Jeremy Hoesly</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;The setting forces users to check out a license in order to activate it. Otherwise, the product will operate in trial or offline mode for 15-30 days before disabling itself. The following &lt;a href="/products/licensing/w/licensing__wiki/13916.how-do-i-restrict-license-usage-to-checkouts-only" target="_blank"&gt;checkout-only support solution&lt;/a&gt; explains the setting in more detail&amp;nbsp;and provides one possible workflow that can help control usage using license checkouts, but it is cumbersome. Another support solution provides additional &lt;a href="/products/licensing/w/licensing__wiki/20995.strategies-for-limiting-usage" target="_blank"&gt;strategies for limiting usage&lt;/a&gt; that are less intrusive.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: can selectserver restrict usage to number of licenses owned ?</title><link>https://communities.bentley.com/thread/323270?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Thu, 07 May 2015 08:54:01 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">6dad98f5-dbc9-4c4d-a9ba-e9da8dc6aa8e:b4ca4963-1b86-4bd7-8882-0baa30e0630d</guid><dc:creator>scape2</dc:creator><description>Well what is the purpose of the option &amp;quot;Restrict usage to only checked out licenses- All users will need to check out a license for every application they wish to use,&amp;quot;  ?&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: can selectserver restrict usage to number of licenses owned ?</title><link>https://communities.bentley.com/thread/323269?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Thu, 07 May 2015 08:40:11 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">6dad98f5-dbc9-4c4d-a9ba-e9da8dc6aa8e:1879b7a1-b85c-4b10-957d-1e4322bbe68b</guid><dc:creator>Maksim Stankevic</dc:creator><description>Yes, application usage data will be transmitted to SelectServer and appear in reports.&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item></channel></rss>