Has anyone solved the issue of License overages?

I'm a bit late to all the new updates...Is there any solution to the problem of license overages? It's nice that we can work over in case of emergency, but I'd like a way to deny licenses if we've hit our limit for everyday use. Is there anything that can do that?

Thank you.

MaryB
MSTN 08.11.08.357
GPK 08.11.07.566

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  • All these suggestions won’t really prevent over usage.  The SELECTserver application is not real-time reporting. Since the implementation of the XM product line and forward, TRUST licensing has been the licensing paradigm. This means the clients are “NOT” connected to the server constantly and can be taken off site to work. With the XM Licensing client it typically attempt posts its usages every 24 hours to the SELECTserver, if it can’t it records the usage and will try again the next 24 hrs. It will do this for 30 days then will go into disabled mode if it can’t post its usages to the SELECTserver within that window.

    You also should understand how we count usage.  If you have a select license then the license is good for an hour even if you’re in the application for 20 minutes.  If you only have one license and are in it from 8:00 am – 8:20 am and then someone else uses it from 8:30 – 9:00 use just over used by one.  For further information on this take a look at the following articles:

    TRUST LICENSING BASICS

    communities.bentley.com/.../2771.aspx

    What is usage and how is it calculated?

    communities.bentley.com/.../what-is-usage-and-how-is-it-calculated.aspx

    Mike



  • Does anyone else see a problem with having to find third party solutions to this issue? The way that Autocad users deal with it is to just use the licenses they have, when they're out, they're out....no mysterious bill comes every three months. That is a MUCH better solution and one I'm likely to switch to, if they can monitor usage real time, verses one hour increments.

  • Pay attention to any thread about trust licensing on this forum and you'll notice that any Bentley employee only responds with how it's there to benefit "YOU." They've been sticking to their guns on this for a long time. Use the Search feature. This isn't the first time this has been brought up. Nothing has changed.
  • Well we ditched Trust Licencing (couldn't se the benefit to us) and installed a 3rd party program to restrict licences. Works a treat and no more cheques to Bentley.
  • Please can you help me with this? What 3rd party program did you install? What did you have to do in order to get rid of trust licencing? I have had issues the last two quarters with overage and although I have the settings to restrict usage to only checked out licences we are still recording overage which remains as another user mentioned, absurd. I have refused to pay but it will come to a head at some point so I am trying to get things resolved before that time.
  • I also restricted usage to only checked out licences, it seems to work for a while, but I think one or two months ago I realized that checking in and out wasn't working properly. I had an overuse report one day and I didn't believe it was right, so I started making notes when I was checking-in and out to see if there really was a problem. Here is the data I wrote sending emails to myself in two overuse...

    1-
    Checkin unlimited (by Internet at 08:45) (by computer at 08:47) from eng-04
    Checkout unlimited at 09:25 from eng-01

    2-
    Checkin unlimited from eng-01 at 09h10
    Checkout unlimited from eng-04 at 10h25

    To you understand what happened, in the first case I made check-in of my unlimited watercad license by internet at 08:45, then I saw that in the computer the status was still check-out, so two minutes later I checked-in that license using the computer too. At 09:25 I checked-out that license on another computer, but the system counted that as overuse. That is really absurd.

    Long time ago I searched for programs that helped not having overusage. One was very expensive for us and the other wouldn't work for WaterCad.

    Here are the links I found at that time:
    www.softwaremetering.com/bentley-calendar-hour-control.htm
    www.sassafras.com/taming-bentley-select-with-k2
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  • I also restricted usage to only checked out licences, it seems to work for a while, but I think one or two months ago I realized that checking in and out wasn't working properly. I had an overuse report one day and I didn't believe it was right, so I started making notes when I was checking-in and out to see if there really was a problem. Here is the data I wrote sending emails to myself in two overuse...

    1-
    Checkin unlimited (by Internet at 08:45) (by computer at 08:47) from eng-04
    Checkout unlimited at 09:25 from eng-01

    2-
    Checkin unlimited from eng-01 at 09h10
    Checkout unlimited from eng-04 at 10h25

    To you understand what happened, in the first case I made check-in of my unlimited watercad license by internet at 08:45, then I saw that in the computer the status was still check-out, so two minutes later I checked-in that license using the computer too. At 09:25 I checked-out that license on another computer, but the system counted that as overuse. That is really absurd.

    Long time ago I searched for programs that helped not having overusage. One was very expensive for us and the other wouldn't work for WaterCad.

    Here are the links I found at that time:
    www.softwaremetering.com/bentley-calendar-hour-control.htm
    www.sassafras.com/taming-bentley-select-with-k2
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