Revising horizontal and vertical geometry

We are currently working on a project that we are pursuing. One of my co-workers is working on alignments and profiles while I am working on the modeling. I have already modeled one of his designs, but it has been and will be changing over the next few days, both horizontally and vertically. 

What is the best approach to updating my model with his new alignment and profile? He has been designing them, then loading it into the gpk for me to import into my drawing.

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  • The best approach is to have your coworker work the alignments and profiles in the file you have imported the horizontal and vertical geometry already. That way the model will always be updated with the current design modifications. The model will dynamically change with the horizontal and vertical geometry through the use of Civil Tools/Geometry.

    If you have to keep importing the geometry from the GPK file, you will have to constantly rework the model as the civil rules will probably be overwritten and important information/detail (ie horizontal and/or vertical offsets) will be removed. This takes away the dynamic nature of corridor modeling and again makes it that much more difficult to model a corridor in most scenarios.

    I am looking into away to update the current established 2D graphics to the newly updated and imported horizontal and vertical geometry to fit your workflow. However, civil tools have not lent themselves to your current workflow, but rather have confirmed what I mentioned as the best approach.

    I will keep you posted if I find away to approach your workflow adequately or in similarity.

      

  • Thanks Brad,

    I believe my co-worker is still working in SS2, so he is still using input files and the gpk to update his alignment. I believe what i am going to have to do is see what he comes up with and update my civil geometry accordingly. I will speak with him and see if he can do his work on the civil geometry as opposed to the old way.

    Thanks

    Zachary Billings, P.E.

    Senior Roadway Engineer (Licensed in FL and MI)

    CONSOR Engineers, LLC

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  • In my testing, I found the following as far as profiles:

    Note: This is a basic test scenario and is not intended to be the complete workflow. There maybe other steps or tools to use in your project workflow that is not covered in the steps below.

    1. Imported an Alignment with the Existing Ground Profile from the GPK file using the Task Navigation > Civil Tools > General Geometry > Import Geometry tool.

     

    2. Select the Alignment and hover mouse over to gain access to the Contextual Tool palette.

     

    3. Select the first icon to access the Properties of the Alignment.

    4. Change the Feature Definition to something other than No Feature Definition. In this example it was changed to ConstLinesGreenDash to show that the Alignment is not being over written and the profile is being added to the Alignment as well as the Civil Elements maintaining their civil rules.

    5. Select the second icon on the Contextual Tool Palette to access the Open Profile View tool.

    6. Select View 3 from the View Groups Toolbar in the bottom left corner of the Microstation dialog.

    Note: Notice the Profile is already set to active.

     

    7. Create Edges of Pavement lines with the Task Navigation > Civil Tools > Horizontal Geometry > Single Offset Entire Element tool. (Just to establish some rule based geometry to show this procedure preserves the civil geometry association with the centerline.)

    8.  Import the newly designed Profile for the existing Alignment from the GPK file using the Task Navigation > Civil Tools > General Geometry > Import Geometry tool.

     

    9. Select the Alignment and hover mouse over to gain access to the Contextual Tool palette.

     

    10. Select the second icon on the Contextual Tool Palette to access the Open Profile View tool.

    11. Select View 3 from the View Groups Toolbar in the bottom left corner of the Microstation dialog.

    Note: Notice the Profile is already set to active and now there are 2 profiles associated with this 1 Alignment.

    12. Select both Edge of Pavement lines in the Plan View window to verify the Civil Geometry rules are still established.

     

      

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  • In my testing, I found the following as far as profiles:

    Note: This is a basic test scenario and is not intended to be the complete workflow. There maybe other steps or tools to use in your project workflow that is not covered in the steps below.

    1. Imported an Alignment with the Existing Ground Profile from the GPK file using the Task Navigation > Civil Tools > General Geometry > Import Geometry tool.

     

    2. Select the Alignment and hover mouse over to gain access to the Contextual Tool palette.

     

    3. Select the first icon to access the Properties of the Alignment.

    4. Change the Feature Definition to something other than No Feature Definition. In this example it was changed to ConstLinesGreenDash to show that the Alignment is not being over written and the profile is being added to the Alignment as well as the Civil Elements maintaining their civil rules.

    5. Select the second icon on the Contextual Tool Palette to access the Open Profile View tool.

    6. Select View 3 from the View Groups Toolbar in the bottom left corner of the Microstation dialog.

    Note: Notice the Profile is already set to active.

     

    7. Create Edges of Pavement lines with the Task Navigation > Civil Tools > Horizontal Geometry > Single Offset Entire Element tool. (Just to establish some rule based geometry to show this procedure preserves the civil geometry association with the centerline.)

    8.  Import the newly designed Profile for the existing Alignment from the GPK file using the Task Navigation > Civil Tools > General Geometry > Import Geometry tool.

     

    9. Select the Alignment and hover mouse over to gain access to the Contextual Tool palette.

     

    10. Select the second icon on the Contextual Tool Palette to access the Open Profile View tool.

    11. Select View 3 from the View Groups Toolbar in the bottom left corner of the Microstation dialog.

    Note: Notice the Profile is already set to active and now there are 2 profiles associated with this 1 Alignment.

    12. Select both Edge of Pavement lines in the Plan View window to verify the Civil Geometry rules are still established.

     

      

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