Inherited Adhoc Attributes

When placing lines using the D&C manager, whenever an element is copied from the CL of construction, the new element inherits the chain attributes. And I've noticed there are times when these elements will not plot correctly in cross sections because of those inherited adhocs. I'm attaching pictures to show what I mean. In the first one, the Paved Shoulder line has no inherited attributes because it was drawn in without being copied. However the second picture is copy parallel element and it shows all the adhocs of the chain. Is there any way to turn this off? 

  • To the best of my knowledge there is not a way to "turn off" the attributes of an element so that they do not get copied with the element.  If this is an issue, I would recommend using the GEOPAK Draw Transition tool.  This tool will draw the elements into the file at a given offset using a specified chain.  This results in the same element as using the MicroStation Copy/Move Parallel tool, only without the attributes.  

    To address the reference to these attributes affecting the cross sections, I have to say that as long as the GEOPAK attribute from the DDB is tagged to the element and there are not duplicate adhocs, These COGO attributes tags should not be affecting the criteria and the drawing of the design features in cross section.  The criteria in no way looks at these attributes.  If these attributes do seem to be an issue, please give me a call.

  • I have had this problem as well. What I usually do is open the 3PC Adhoc Attribute Manager and use Identify Element to grab the attributes of the line. Then select by attributes that same line and then go to FDOT Toolbar -> Actions -> Cleanup and QC Utilities -> Remove Geopak Attributes. You can either select individual elements or a selection set. Use selection set and remove the attributes from the elements.

    Now select by again, go back to your 3PC Adhoc window, and hit Set Attributes. Now all your lines should only have the adhocs for that type of line and not of the CL or BL.

    If you do this for your first offset line on each side of the CL, assuming you are using the CL for your offsets, then you can just offset the rest of your lines based on those first offset lines.

    As far as i know, there is no stopping the original offset lines from maintaining the attributes of the CL.

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