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Survey Point "Decorations" written to graphics

Andrew Kempe — Mon, 22 Feb 2021 23:38:32 GMT

I have my survey points displayed in the "live" survey drawing showing Point Number, Elevation, Description, Notes.

Now I need to create graphics of these for every point in my drawing (and future drawings).

i have watched a video showing the creation of some graphics for one Control Point which appears to hard-wire the code, N, E, EL.

This is probably where I need to be going with this, but the example is for one control point and different pieces.

I am on Projectwise, and boot my drawing such that the state created "things" appear, sort of replicating the many "things" that were shown in the video.

There appears to be an Annotation Group Plan/Point/Survey/ "All Points Label" which sounds like a thing that might create labels for all the points?

There is also an Annotation Definition Plan/Point/ "Survey Topo Point Label" which sounds like a thing that might create labels for all the points?

Then I find an Element Template with Survey Features and a thing called "Survey Topo Label" which sounds like a thing that might create labels for all the points?

Then I find a Text Favorite called "Survey Topo Point Label" which looks like a hard-wired Code, N, E, EL for one specific point from some survey by the state.

So now that I'm totally confused by all these things, I'd like to be able to somehow get a graphic replica of the "Decorations" of my points (all the points) from my 'live" drawing.

Somehow it seems that Text Favorite needs to be generalized to write out the Point Number, Elevation, description, notes for any/all points imported to the drawing.

Seeing that the state has done some of the setup for this, I'd like to understand how all the "things" need to be (pointing to the next thing) but somehow get the pieces of the "decorations" applied as graphics.

Attached is a screen shot of the many "things" that maybe point to each other and maybe get close to this end, but I'm looking for labels for all the points, not just one "EOGRVL" point from some survey.

Is it even possible in ORD to get graphics for all points from a survey?

ORD won't create a file Power Inroads can use!?

PLS Heaton — Wed, 31 Mar 2021 23:05:33 GMT

I can not get Open Roads Designer to export a V8i/Power InRoads compatible DGN, it acts like it does but when I try to open it with PI it gives me the error something to the effect of "this file has Civil Data that is newer than the program you are trying to use. open as read only?" so I think I can work around this problem. I open a separate V8i/PI file and reference the read only ORD created option into it, then I copy the reference data into the V8i/PI DGN and start working thinking everything is ok. I'm working along creating alignments in an ALG file and drawing lines thinking I'm moving forward, I get out of the V8i/PI file to look at something in the ORD file (isn't this fun having 2 products made by the same company that are like oil and water) then try to reopen the the V8i/PI file and it gives me the same Civil Data error above. I start to question my thinking maybe it was named something else or maybe I saved it in the wrong spot, i try doing a Restart on the old computer because that sometimes fixes these things, NOPE. The file is Read Only so now I have to recreate the V8i/PI file again. It is like one of the programmers for ORD is a secret spy for AutoCad and has written code to make the new fancy smancy CAD program be so incompatible with its previous versions that it will drive you to ask the question maybe Civil3D by AutoCad is better??!? Writing deeds and rotating alignments in V8i/PI is straight forward customizable and works ORD is severely lacking and appears to be quite buggy for a program that has been on the market for 2+ years, yes I have the latest version of ORD. We are using UDOT's config file which works as far as I can tell. So yeah for a file with everything in it blah blah blah give me the ease of V8i/PI for creating deeds.

PS the curve entry in ORD Geometry Builders is also horrible, if you don't have a tangent curve or the cord information for a curve you are trying to enter have fun manually creating lines to figure out what ORD has to have to enter a curve, V8i/PI can use radial bearings but fancy prance ORD can't handle radial bearings, really?

If you made it this far thanks for listening to my rant, any ideas on how to fix any of the glitches described above would be great. I'm going to check on Civil3D prices.

Frustrated Surveyor

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