Hello
I'm adjusting the ribbon in microstation connect and would like to make my own attributes and primary groups, and not use the preset ones. The problem then is the shortcuts. Because in preferences - position mapping I have attributes & primary positions as default; A & S, but when I make my own Attributes and primary group they are treated just like any other group. That means that the shortcuts gets kind of messed up when I have/dont have those groups in different tabs. I want my own to be treated just like the attributes or primary group should be, but customize it myself. Is there a way to do this?
Robert
The only way I think that it could be achieved is to edit the position mapped keys by deleting the keys associated to attributes & primary, and then moving those to the Task & Ribbon Section see below:
Once that is done you can pine your custom attributes the your current or all workflows.
Hi. That's how I have it today. But if I have a tab without the attribute or primary group, the the commands get messed up. I find it really hard the make a consistent way to work with shortcuts in Connect. I'm trying to mimic the main toolbar from v8i and have the groups like select, manipulate, modify, measure etc. to always be the same shortcut, but it seems Bentley don't want us the work that way anymore, but rather use the mouse for everything.
Saw you answered my ohter question here: Modification tab, and that's another example of where you're not able to make sure the same shortcut always executes the same command. And it also makes my A the shortcut for select all of a sudden, if I follow your recommendation above.
Hi Robert,
I agree with David, when Position Mapping is used, the proposed solution is probably the only one. Unfortunately it does not solve the problem with different access keys when the group is located at different position in a tab, because Position Mapping keys are always auto-generated.
My question is whether Position Mapping has to be used? Standard ribbon access keys, when Position Mapping is off, allow to define tools (icons) shortcuts independently on the tool position. A disadvantage (for some users) is that groups cannot be displayed using access keys under a cursor (but it can be solved partially by cutomization of <Space> shortcut).
With regards,
Jan
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Oh, I've used the word shortcut, I meant position mapping, thanks.
Don't know what you mean with standard ribbon access key. But I thought you meant the shortcuts first, (what's actually called shortcuts) and it seems I can you them when I turn of position mapping. problem then is i heard you can only have two quick tools, and with that, space bar as well. Don't think I can fit all the commands into just 3 buttons if I want them to be easy to use, (eg. q-0 is not very easy to type).
Or am I missing something here?
Unknown said:problem then is i heard you can only have two quick tools, and with that, space bar as well.
Q and <Space> are hard-coded I guess, but both are configurable, so it's easy to change what is at second level (there are many tools under Q and only one stadard option under <Space>).
Because everything is configured using standard MicroStation key-ins (see Keyboard Shortcuts dialog), I guess it's quite easy to change keyboard assignment as necessary. Old Position Mapping is also typically 2 or 3 key-ins combination, so Q + something (+ something) is pretty the same (and does not depend on a tool position). And when Q and <Space> is not enough, you can assign any other key and assign a proper key-ins to it.
Unknown said:Don't think I can fit all the commands into just 3 buttons if I want them to be easy to use, (eg. q-0 is not very easy to type).
In my opinion there is no such limitation. And when q-0 is hard to type, change it to anything better for you.