How are default WorkSet Properties modified

When a workset is created, there is an option to create new WorkSet Properties.  These can be added and edited later from the workset menu.

There are also default Workset Properties such as Project Name, Project Number, etc.  Where can these properties be modified?  The workset menu only shows the properties I created.  Under the File Properties within a DGN there is a section called WorkSet Properties where I can see both the default and user added properties (all properly greyed out since they shouldn't be edited within the file).  But I can only edit the ones I added.  How do I edit the default Workset Properties?

I'm investigating using the workset properties to populate sheet number block items such as the "Project Number" that will go on all sheets.  Once the Workset Properties are set and all the pertinent properties can be edited; is it possible to save that as a workset template (to be used on all projects)?

(I've also tested using properties within the Sheet Index properties, and have the same question about having a DGNWS template.)

Using OpenRoads Designer Version 10.04.00

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  • The answer to your first question is that the properties are stored in the worksets DGNws file. You can open the DGNws file and edit any of the properties, they are stored on the file header. Any changes will be written to files opened with that workset active.

    You can have a workset template or a DGNws seed for creating new workset. There are configuration variables to set this up and you can create a base workset to work as a template if you want. A workset template is more detailed than a DGNws seed, the workset template also contains the dgnws but also folders and other files can be included.  There are several TR's on this concept so tread where you want with caution.

    Regarding Sheet indexing note that the Workset custom properties and sheet indexing properties and custom properties are somewhat different. Text fields, reporting, etc. can use either. One set is stored on the model (sheet models inparticular) the other is stored on the file.

    HTH

    ~HTH

    John.

    yep

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  • How do I change the default properties on the file header?  When I go to the Edit WorkSet area I can change the default "Description" variable and the variables I added.  The other default variables are not available here.

    Then when I go to the File Properties of a DGN in the WorkSet I can see both the "default" properties and the ones I could edit in the above screen.  How can these circled attributes be edited?

    When I used this DGNWS as a seed (either on the use template option on the create workset dialog OR in the configuration variables) my added workset variables do not come across.

    I fared better using the Sheet Index variables.  I added three subfolders to the Sheet Index, each with their own sheet numbering rules, plus I added some Sheet Index variables.  These all came over when using the DGNWS as a seed.  However they came across as a group with the seed DGNWS name.  A second empty group with the active DGNWS name was also included.  This seems rather awkward; I'd rather have the seed group renamed to the new DGNWS name - I think I saw another thread about that.

    One other oddity is that the Sheet Index variables do not show up in the Manage Sheet Index dialog.  They can be seen and modified in the Properties tab, but not in the dialog.

    SCC.dgnws

    For my application I think I'd rather use the workset properties than the Sheet Index properties since, as you point out, they are more universally available.  But at the moment the Sheet Index variables seem to work better.

    ORD-2018 Release 2 Update 4 - Version 10.04.00.48

  • The 'Project *' properties were all created specifically for use by CONNECTED Projects so we won't make them available for free editing. The custom properties are available for that purpose, so where cloud services are unavailable appropriate custom WorkSet properties can be created. The WorkSet Properties dialog is designed for that enabling adding, editing and deleting custom properties. The general Properties dialog is only designed to allow values to be edited.

    I can see a workflow where it would sometimes be time-saving for someone working in a DGNWS to quickly edit a property via the Properties panel. On the other hand we are often criticised for failing to consolidate settings in single locations, so I would suggest that we stick to the WorkSet Properties dialog for this with its UI designed for that purpose.

    Does editing custom WorkSet properties occur with such frequency that we need to add a mechanism to the general Properties dialog that can write to the DGNWS?

    Marc

  • Does editing custom WorkSet properties occur with such frequency that we need to add a mechanism to the general Properties dialog that can write to the DGNWS?

    Editing them from the Work page or when in the DGNws from the properties works fine, if it works correctly. In my case there seems to be a bug in ORD regarding editing these from Properties as it is not possible.  In MSTN the bug as far as I can see is that WorkSpace is editable. The "Project" properties are fine with be editable if they sync to the CONNECTed project if/when it is made CONNECTed.

    ~HTH

    John.

    yep

  • Hi Dominic,

    Defect 1007045 is on our backlog, it won't be resolved for update 13. If this is important to you please file a Service Request referencing this defect number so your concern can linked to the defect.

    Marc

  • I'm having a similar issue where I cannot edit the Workset name within the DGNWS file. I've modified the folder name, config name, and dgnws file to the correct workset name, but the property line "Name" is still incorrect and is greyed out in the dgnws. Any idea how to unlock that? Any file created prompts me that the workset is wrong, but will allow me to use the active correct workset... It works but it's an extra step. Would rather fix the default value if possible.

    Thanks!

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  • I'm having a similar issue where I cannot edit the Workset name within the DGNWS file. I've modified the folder name, config name, and dgnws file to the correct workset name, but the property line "Name" is still incorrect and is greyed out in the dgnws. Any idea how to unlock that? Any file created prompts me that the workset is wrong, but will allow me to use the active correct workset... It works but it's an extra step. Would rather fix the default value if possible.

    Thanks!

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