How to create new tools?

RE: How to create new tools?

mwlong — Thu, 22 Aug 2019 16:23:55 GMT

Sorry, I wasn't trying to suggest they were element templates. I was merely trying to suggest using element templates rather than creating new tools. Why go through all the trouble of creating a new tool when element templates can handle this task? It seems that the tools may have been made prior to element templates (don't know what version they were introduced) and that custom tool was just brought forward rather than recreating in a new tool.

RE: How to create new tools?

Rob.G — Thu, 22 Aug 2019 13:08:34 GMT

no, the tools evoke key-ins as we can see now. the key ins set color etc... just like templates WOULD do (and easieer). But she is right that it looks like the key in is not editable. Jan is possibly right and they don't come from a dgnlib... If they would the dgnlib should be listed in the customize/file dialog, as I mentioned before...

Also the location where to find the files should be obvious -> MS_DGNLIBLIST or MS_GUI_DGNLIBLIST

RE: How to create new tools?

mwlong — Thu, 22 Aug 2019 11:17:51 GMT

This looks sort of like Element Templates to me. With an Element Template you can define the parameters like your current tools seem to do. Look up Working with Element Templates in the help file. You can create a .dgnlib to make them available across all files.

RE: How to create new tools?

Jan Šlegr — Thu, 22 Aug 2019 11:12:08 GMT

[quote userid="924772" url="~/products/microstation/f/microstation-forum/184316/how-to-create-new-tools/539608"]I've updated the thread with some screenshots.[/quote]

Ok, now it's a bit clearer. When your toolbox is displayed under MicroStation together with standard toolboxes, it's probably defined using old "pre-XM" customization. In such case it's stored in rsc file, named probably something like .m01 or .r01. It cannot be said what the file(s) location is, because it depends on your workspace configuration, but it will somewhere in your workspace.

I recommend to read this wiki article about customization migration.

After the toolbox will be converted to dgnlib, it will be possible to modify it using standard V8i customization tools.

With regards,

Jan

RE: How to create new tools?

Lorys — Thu, 22 Aug 2019 11:05:40 GMT

I think its just keyins with icons associated tool pallet .. it may be a dgnlib but you need to click on more items like the menu bar and some of the others to see the keyins...a dgn lib would hold the level names just as well as a seed file, but the keyin lv=corte will create the level so no need for seed or dgnlib for those things .. pretty hard to be a detective without sitting at your pc..

why not run a macro recorder and play with the tools and see what gets tracked?

I've forgotten prev8i how to create a tool pallet with icons that just run set keyins... but I'm sure someone will chime in or a search would find the process...

RE: How to edit a toolbox created in previous MicroStation versions?

Rob.G — Thu, 22 Aug 2019 09:44:59 GMT

To help you remotely on this very individual issue is rather hard. Maybe you should provide a screenshot of the customize dialog. My guess is that the tools are not defined in the dgnlib, but are MDL code which provides a KeyIn, and the toolbox just parses that KeyIn. If that is the case you'll have to find the .ma which loads the commands. Maybe unload some ma's via mdl application dialog and see which one is the right one. If the KeyIn in the dgnlib is preceded by a [ ], then the ma is the on within the brackets.

RE: How to edit a toolbox created in previous MicroStation versions?

Rob.G — Wed, 21 Aug 2019 14:54:48 GMT

I'd suggest this: open the customize dialog again. Go to it's file Menu. It should list all files that are currently configured and loaded. Enter the files in the list. The customize dialog will stay open. In the tools tab on the lefthand side the currently opened file will be highlighted in blue (not grey like other dgnlibs) as 'user tools', and somewhere there you should find your toolbox by expanding the structure via +

HTH