[MicroStation CONNECT Ed. u13] _USTN_LOCALE_LANGUAGE

RE: [MicroStation CONNECT Ed. u13] _USTN_LOCALE_LANGUAGE

Robin Graf — Fri, 03 Apr 2020 10:25:36 GMT

I know that. I know where to find the variable visually in the configuration dialog. My question was where MS CE creates the variable. it is not part of the configuration, you won't find it in any cfg.

I also know that you can change the language of the MS GUI via preferences. This does not answer the real question though: how can _ustn_locale_language be used in a config to determine the language of MS CE. Can't it be used for that purpose. Obviously I have difficulties.

As a workaround I use this construct:

%if $(_USTN_LOCALE_COUNTRY) == ""
MS_KEYBOARDSHORTCUTSSEED = $(MS_ORGANIZATION_USER_APPSETTINGS_DFLTS)KeyboardShortcutSeed_$(_USTN_LOCALE_LANGUAGE).xml
MS_KEYBOARDSHORTCUTS = $(_USTN_PREFNAMEBASE).KeyboardShortcuts_$(_USTN_LOCALE_LANGUAGE).xml
%endif

because I found that _ustn_locale_language is only correct if _Ustn_locale_country is not set.

So how are these 2 variables determined by Bentley?

RE: [MicroStation CONNECT Ed. u13] _USTN_LOCALE_LANGUAGE

Hyung Kim — Tue, 24 Mar 2020 13:31:25 GMT

[quote userid="3325" url="~/products/administration/f/product-administration-forum/185698/microstation-connect-ed-u13-_ustn_locale_language"]Where does MicroStation draw the language from? I can't find _USTN_LOCALE_LANGUAGE set (as a definition) anywhere in the config, only as a reference.[/quote]

You could find the variable after creating _ustn_displayallcfgvars = 1 in your Configuration Variables dialog box. That variable seems to be needed for certain localized versions of MS in order to process their delivered font resource files (e.g. MS_SYMBRSRC).

For the selection of language, you could have access Preferences > Language > Select Language after installing the language pack.

RE: [MicroStation CONNECT Ed. u13] _USTN_LOCALE_LANGUAGE

Robin Graf — Wed, 11 Mar 2020 08:11:39 GMT

I don't know exactly at what you're hinting at. I never refered to Upgrades. In my first post I mentioned that the german LP is currently not installed but the variable nevertheless Points to 'de'.

But as a matter of fact, yes, we do not use the german full download, we use the std. english download and use a language pack usually.

Can someone at Bentley please just look into the Code and determine how the value for this variable is build?

This issue happened now longer ago, I'll have to look again into the matter. Also if this is related to the omnious file msdefaultlanguage.txt which MicroStation creates in the prefs (and which cannot be predefined administratively).

RE: [MicroStation CONNECT Ed. u13] _USTN_LOCALE_LANGUAGE

Hyung Kim — Fri, 24 Jan 2020 21:29:35 GMT

According to the following upgrade test cases by default (no custom configuration variables are involved), these are expected and work as designed.

Test Case 1

- English MS U12 + German LP

- Upgrade by English MS U13

Result: The German LP will be uninstalled while the latest English version will be upgraded. The equivalent LP should be downloaded and installed separately after the upgrade.

Test Case 2

- German MS U12

- Upgrade by German MS U13

Result: Everything will be upgraded as per the language.

So, I am guessing that what you are seeing is Test Case 1. Is that right?

RE: [MicroStation CONNECT Ed. u13] _USTN_LOCALE_LANGUAGE

Rob.G — Fri, 20 Sep 2019 08:11:52 GMT

Can please somebody from Bentley comment on this issue. We're in the middle of our rollout and get more and more cases where our configuration does not work as expected. Is the above mentioned variable intended to reflect the current application (MicroStation) locale, or that of the OS? I think it's the applications locale, as usually the variable switches if you're using the language settings (if a language pack is installed). We have cases I'm pretty sure that a language pack never was installed and after starting MS in english the variable nevertheless points to de. Also, I double checked on my pc that the region setting, as proposed by Kevin, is set to de and MS absolutely correct sets the engl. MS to en...

This has rather large impact as the pop-up menu is a central interface component, and Bentley sadly set up the space bar command in a localized manner...

RE: [MicroStation CONNECT Ed. u13] _USTN_LOCALE_LANGUAGE

Rob.G — Wed, 18 Sep 2019 12:34:02 GMT

We tried installing the german LP for update 13, and after switching back to english, the variable seems to work as expected. In my opionion there's probably an issue with installing MS CE u13 over MS CE u12 with LP when it is set to a locale. My guess is that this does not reset the language correctly everywhere to EN, although only an english software is all that remains on the machine...

RE: [MicroStation CONNECT Ed. u13] _USTN_LOCALE_LANGUAGE

Rob.G — Tue, 17 Sep 2019 13:20:40 GMT

Thanks, Kevin, but this is not it....

What you're suggesting is that the OS language sets _USTN_LOCALE_LANGUAGE, which simply cannot be true...

1. I have set that OS setting to german and the variable is nevertheless (as desired) EN when I start the english MicroStation.

2. You can set the language within MicroStation if you have a Language pack installed. The next launch of MS will the reflect the new value in the variable. So it's not drawn from any OS setting.

RE: [MicroStation CONNECT Ed. u13] _USTN_LOCALE_LANGUAGE

Kevin van Haaren — Tue, 17 Sep 2019 13:13:31 GMT

Check the OS Locale setting (instructions below for windows 10):

1. In search tab type "Region" and press enter.

2. In new window select "Administrative"

3. then click on "change system locale"

4. Select the language.