[ORD/CE 10.10.21.4] DGNLIBs not always loading via MS_GUIDGNLIBLIST

I am defining multiple custom GUI DGNLIBs (ribbon customizations) with the configuration variable MS_GUIDGNLIBLIST. It seems that the program (ORD 10.10.21.4) intermittently decides to include or not include one or more of the custom DGNLIBs. This occurs across multiple machines and there seems to be no rhyme or reason as to what makes this problem replicate. Sometimes a user will enter a new session of ORD and all the cusomt ribbons appear. Other times, they just get one or two of them. 

Has anyone encountered this, and if so what is the solution/workaround? 

Here is a snippet of the code in one of the bootstrapped cfg files, though there are additional definitions of the variable in other files as well: 

%ifdef FDOT_OBM_APP
	MS_GUIDGNLIBLIST > $(PGA_WORKSPACESTANDARDS)Dgnlib/GUI/PGA-OBM-Ribbon.dgnlib
%endif
%ifdef FDOT_ORD_APP
	MS_GUIDGNLIBLIST > $(PGA_WORKSPACESTANDARDS)Dgnlib/GUI/PGA-ORD-Ribbon.dgnlib
	MS_GUIDGNLIBLIST > $(PGA_WORKSPACESTANDARDS)Dgnlib/GUI/PGA-Qtys-Ribbon.dgnlib
%endif
 

  • When it fails have you had the user key-in show configuration and then send you the text file that opens?

    that file will show you what the guidgnliblist is set to. I'm wondering if the Config file is failing and the dgnlib doesn't get added to the variable properly, or it is added but ORD isn't reading the file correctly.

    only 2 other things I can think of:

    1. try using the %if defined(variable_name) instead of %ifdef. No idea why this would matter but I've never used %ifdef and I can't recall Bentley using it in the shipped configs.
    2. Open the dgnlib, key-in file disassociateworkset and then immediately exit the file. I've had problems with dgnlibs associated to worksets not working properly.

     

  • Hi Eddie,

    You can run the %ifdef Flow Directives in one block, it's possible that might change the behaviour?

    Pease try omitting the first %endif as shown below:

    %ifdef FDOT_OBM_APP
    MS_GUIDGNLIBLIST > $(PGA_WORKSPACESTANDARDS)Dgnlib/GUI/PGA-OBM-Ribbon.dgnlib
    %ifdef FDOT_ORD_APP
    MS_GUIDGNLIBLIST > $(PGA_WORKSPACESTANDARDS)Dgnlib/GUI/PGA-ORD-Ribbon.dgnlib
    MS_GUIDGNLIBLIST > $(PGA_WORKSPACESTANDARDS)Dgnlib/GUI/PGA-Qtys-Ribbon.dgnlib
    %endif

    Regarding the 'if defined' Flow Directives, there are two options that work identically. %ifdef is included in the help documentation and simplifies the syntax by removing spaces from the Flow Directive and eliminating the need for brackets around the variable. I'm guessing the %if defined (VAR) version continues to be used in our delivered files for consistency with earlier file content. I'll flag this with development, the existence of two versions is confusing.

    The statements listed below result in:

    MYVAR1 = One
    MYVAR2 = Two

    %ifdef MYVAR1
    %echo "$(MYVAR1)"
    %endif

    %if defined (MYVAR2)
    %echo "$(MYVAR2)"
    %endif

    Marc

  • I think if defined() allows you to use more complex expressions and ifdef doesn't. So you can do:

    %if defined(variable) && exists("path")

     

  • Hi Kevin, thank you I just tested that sequence and it fails with %ifdef as you noted.

    A bug was filed for this a few weeks ago, please can any of you who would like to see this resolved file a Service Request mentioning bug 1056865 "If def" and "If  defined" configuration micros should work same. Doing so will increase the priority of the bug.

    I have added a note on this particular statement and a link to this thread to the bug.

    Marc

  • Hi Marc, thank you for the idea. I tried your suggestion and that fails (none of the custom DGNLIBs load). 

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