Beam Definition won't apply to a few specific beams

I have looked everywhere and can't find a clear explanation of the mechanics behind when it will and won't apply the beam definitions. Apparently the pattern is acceptable, there were no errors when creating that, but the first 3 or 4 spans, the left most beam refuses to be created. Some of the spans it will let me select a beam definition and list it as such in the Beam Definition window, sometimes it won't even let me select a beam type, it just defaults back to the WF66G beam, which doesn't show anyway.

I would love to know the reason for why these beams won't create - given there is no explanation for it I've been trying all sorts of adjustments with no luck.

If anyone can help explain it for me or point me towards somewhere that might help me figure it out I would be appreciative. Thanks.

  • Just an update on this, I did update OBM, but the issue was still occurring. I submitted the issue to Bentley, and they found it to be some peculiar bug, but I don't see any notification from them since, so I don't think I have received any update from them with a solution.

  • I don't know that OpenBridge would support that kind of bridge directly, as far as I know at this time you need to have the beams within the footprint of the deck, I may be wrong. Could you build it by initially making the deck wider to accommodate the beams outside lines, and sitting the deck on top of the beams and then offset the deck down in elevation by the difference you are trying to achieve, then clip the edges of the deck by the width of the beam plus the width of the connection plates?

    I know that seems like a long route to get to your design, but I am not sure of another solution at this time. Maybe that could get you there?

  • Hi Sri,

    I have a similar question, but I can't even generate beam layout as my beam arrangement is outside of the deck edge. Can you suggest me how to overcome this problem?

    I am trying to do a Stell bridge with Left and Right beam and deck in the middle of the beams, not top of the beam. Please refer to the image below, can you suggest the best workflow for this kind of bridge? Also, it's a 2 span bridge where one span is a cantilever, can you also guide on how to set-up a cantilever beam?

    Regards,

    Jaimin Patel.

  • Thanks Steve. For some reason the Connection Client wasn't notifying me of this available update.

    Still, this hasn't resolved the issue. I've tried recreating the structure several times, and creating the beam layouts one span at a time. In the latter case, by then pulling the edge distance to 3.5 ft it did allow the left beam to be defined for the first span I created, but the second and third spans still won't create.

    I don't have the greatest understanding of what is meant by Chord, or whether this is somehow playing a part, though I don't believe so as I have tried switching that on and off (I did notice a very slight shift in the beam layout lines when doing this, though I still haven't figured exactly the meaning and can't find a clear definition anywhere.)

    I'm going to submit a support ticket now and see if I can get anywhere that way.

    Thanks for your help though guys, it's greatly appreciated.

  • There is a newer version of OBM available. If that does not resolve your issue, I would suggest filing a support ticket for someone to take a look at your file.