Cells Disappear Changing Annotation Scale

We have a serious issue that I believe is related to TR#68884 which I found in Cell dissappears at drawing scale 1:100.  We currently have door tags created with the Place DataGroup Annotation tool because we use Drawing Extractions.  Because of the issues we've been having, we started placing the annotations in the same file as the 3D doors.  We extract the plans with walls, doors, windows, and annotations without incident typically to 1/8"=1'-0".  We then reference the extracted file into a drawing model which is 2D.  Then we reference the drawing model into a sheet model which is also 2D.  If the scale is always 1/8"=1'-0", then all is fine.  The problem occurs when we get to enlarged plans where we want to scale up a partial plan to something like 1/4"=1'-0".  The cells disappear in the sheet model completely (nest level 2).  They only disappear in the drawing model (nest depth 1) of the sheet model if we zoom in (a little).

Has anyone else experienced this?  I'll create a support ticket next.

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  • I'm fairly certain the disappearing cells are related to a 3D set of objects/annotations extracted to a certain elevation and then the 2D file element priority for display order is not honoring the annotation scale correctly especially through reference attachments.
    Please don't include responses with Dynamic Views. I'm well aware of how they work with automatic annotations. Thank you.

    Mark Mates - BIM Manager - Mason & Hanger

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  • I'm fairly certain the disappearing cells are related to a 3D set of objects/annotations extracted to a certain elevation and then the 2D file element priority for display order is not honoring the annotation scale correctly especially through reference attachments.
    Please don't include responses with Dynamic Views. I'm well aware of how they work with automatic annotations. Thank you.

    Mark Mates - BIM Manager - Mason & Hanger

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