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Export from AECOsim Energy Simulator

Pedro Martin
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Is there a way to export a model from AECOsim Energy Smulator to get it back to Building Designer? I mean exporting it as a gbXML, Dgn or any other format, but keeping all the objects (rooms, envelope walls, surface components, roofs...) and all the data (wall definitions or lighting data, for example).

I´m not sure if gbXML format allows ho have wall definitions inside, but DGN does it.

Is there a way? Is Energy Simulator an one-direction app?

Pedro

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    Hi Pedro, I have been researching this a little further. As it stands there is no bi-directional route. One of the things to note is that when changing a construction in AES the space geometry is not altered i.e increasing the thickness of partition type does not automatically change the room boundaries as it is not clear if the change should be applied to only one or both rooms either side. For energy analysis this may be overlooked in order to check the changes in results. However for ABD the geometry is all important so passing those changes back has much wider implications. The likely workflow in SS6 would be to model the building in ABD, create the ASM (Analytical Space Model) for use with AES and run results, make construction changes in ABD, update or create a new ASM model and run results again in AES. This way you are ensured your AES results are as accurate as possible by taking into account both the material and resulting geometry changes.

    Steve Brown | Bentley Systems

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    Hi, Stephen, thanks for the answer.

    I am looking for a bidirectional way between ABD and AES, in which I could define in ADB some spaces and envelopes with material properties applied, pass them to AES, check them there and change them as needed, and return that model (with spaces, surfaces and materials) back to ADB.

    In short: to use AES as integrated inside ADB.

    Glad to hear that new ABD to AES method. Currently I am using the gbXML way, trying to avoid having to re-model all the building again. But all material properties are lost. So if I want to take profit of the results on AES, I have to duplicate material definitions, check them, apply them manually in ADB...

    I am almost sure I am doing something wrong using this workflow. But If I´m not, it seems not very practical.

    Thanks in advance,
    Pedro

    Pedro Martín García - BIM WIP

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    Hi Pedro, You can open a .DGN created in AECOsim Energy Simulator in AECOsim Building Designer but the envelopes would be simple Shapes with no extended Building Designer properties such as construction materials. The upcoming SS6 release of Building Designer will include an export of an Analytical Space Model (ASM) for use in Energy Simulator. This is a one way process.

    I am interested to understand your required workflow. What are you building your Energy Simulator model on as your template i.e. DGN DXF etc.

    Steve Brown | Bentley Systems

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