AECOsim SS5: "cut solids by curves" applied on architectural and structural objects. How to fix the final geometry?

Hi,

We understand "FULL BIM" objects, all the architectural objects created with "Architectural Design" tools, and all the structural objects created with "Structural design".

When we apply "cut solids by curves" on a "FULL BIM" object, this object remember the original form (as a negative). Are there any way to fix the resultant geometry?

Thanks a lot!

Xavier C.A.

EiPM

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  • Hi Gerard and T_Wollet,

    I send an image to explain it. This is a slab created with "Place floor slab" tool from Architectural tools.

    We Cuted by solids to this slab, and we want to delete the "feature", because we only want the final geometry of this slab.

    The only way to do it is using "Merge Feature list". But If we use this option, the slab is converted to Triforma Solid BREP, and then, we loose the slab Quantities (Top area, bottom area, etc.....)

    Regards,

    Xavier C.A.

    EiPM

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  • By the end, we need to avoid the "features" inside the bim objects.

    Another example with slabs. If we need to join several slabs (maybe two, maybe hundreds of slabs), the final slab loses quantities. I attach two images to explain the "problem feature" with slabs:

    Best regards,

    Xavier C.A.

    EiPM

  • For the first one, what is meant by "we only want the final geometry of this slab"? If you wanted to remove the feature you can use the Delete button in the Features tab.

    For the second, the only workarounds I can suggest are to either A) Trace a new slab using the vertices of the existing slabs, or B) Perform a Boolean Unite, allowing the Slabs to be converted to SmartSolids, then use that resulting boundary to flood a new Slab.



  • I can see this too where you have an extremely large site (2500 acres) and in my case slabs all over the place.
    I can redraw then but a combination (Merge solids would be great) it may have to be limited or take on only the active part.
    I do note one issue would be if the solids are not fully co-planar or sloped.
    I would able to be able to merge these even if stepped or sloped. And have an option to heal the joints on the underside where gaps occur merging sloped solids.
    We are in 3d, after all and should not be limited so singular planes even in ABD.

    Ustn since 1988
    SS4 - i7-3.45Ghz-16 Gb-250/1Tb/1Tb-Win8.1-64b

    Eric D. Milberger
    Architect + Master Planner + BIM

    Senior  Master Planner NASA - Marshall Space Flight Center

    The Milberger Architectural Group, llc

  • Xavier,
    I think that the Insert Vertex and Delete Vertex tools might be the answer to what you are trying to do. This would allow you to add additional control points to the slab geometry to align with the part that you were removing through the feature cut.

    You are correct in that merging two slabs into one (through Unite Solids) will provide underiable results with regards to quantities and thus should be avoided.
    -Travis



  • WE ran into similar issues as You can add only so many vertices to make a slab work and cutting out stuff does not always work well either.
    But as long as two slabs are side by side they should Unify. the problem for he has been that this does not always occur and leaves a line in the drawing which has a meaning if drawn.

    The same occurs in DV's for Elevations on items where you might divide by floor and find that the brick shows a brake line that should not be there if the material unifies.

    Unification across reference files does not work for me.

    Sorry this rambled but trying to find out why something might need to be merged or drawn so complicated. I had the same issue as above but for these reasons.

    Ustn since 1988
    SS4 - i7-3.45Ghz-16 Gb-250/1Tb/1Tb-Win8.1-64b

    Eric D. Milberger
    Architect + Master Planner + BIM

    Senior  Master Planner NASA - Marshall Space Flight Center

    The Milberger Architectural Group, llc