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Pedro Serra
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Hi,

I'm trying to extract quantities from a model where I created a few freeform solids to which I applied parts and datagroup information. I am able to extract the quantities with the quantify tool according to the part's report rules. However if I create a schedule the freeforms do not have any information concerning quantities. I am guessing that the form is not "intelligent enough" to link its quantities to the respective datagroup definition.. Is there any way to accomplish this?

Is it possible to create datagroup definitions that work somehow like the report components of the parts?

Also, is there any way just to make a freeform a little bit more intelligent when reporting quantities, like a height or a length?

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    Pedro,
    Which version of ABD are you using? In SS5, I am able to place a slab form, linear form & free form, then add a Family/Part to each and finally add DataGroup Instance Data to each. With this, I am able to have it report the quantities in the Structural Quantity Report, Quantify tool & DataGroup Explorer schedules.

    The key to it showing up in the Datagroup Explorer schedules is that it the Catalog data that you have added to the form must have an appropriate data schema. For Linear Forms the instance data added must include the Wall_Application.xsd and Wall_Quantities.xsd definition files. For Slab Forms and Free Forms the instance data that is added must include the Slab_Common.xsd and SlabQuantities.xsd definition files. To see this try adding Wall Instance data to a linear form or Slab Instance Data to a slab form.

    Note that Slab Forms are preferred over Free Forms if possible.

    -Travis



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  • 0 Offline in reply to T_Wollet

    By the way... I just noticed that these definition files are not in the same folder as the others (they are in the Program Files (x86) instead of Program Data) and that they do not appear in the definition editor. I tried copying the .xsd files to the Program Data folder where ABD is reading the other definition files but they still do not appear in the definition editor. Is there any way to take a look at this files through the editor and maybe change some stuff?

    Also, what exactly are the .xml files? I was under the impression that these were the actual objects defined by the datagroup, to which we would add definitions (the .xsd). But when I attach a definition to a datagroup object I have to choose a destination file that can be any of the xml files that exists.  

  • 0 Offline in reply to Pedro Serra
    Pedro

    The XSDs are a great way to make sure that the same properties are used every time you call them, for example Manufacturer or Fire Rating, and they are intentionally kept small so can add just the groups of properties that you need, but sometimes elements ends up with a few properties that they don't always need.

    By any chance, have you downloaded the Ss6 early adopter version? It has a ton of new schema management tools that help clarify where everything is coming from.

    Ss6 also introduces the concept of user-defined catalog types for walls, slabs, and profiles, which would let you define your own special kind of slab and use if for whatever you want (plus tools to help you create the catalog type, complete with a minimum schema required for each catalog type to work with its related tools).

    -Tom



  • 0 Offline in reply to TomWaltz
    Hi Tom,
    No I haven't, where can I find the download? Is it available as a trial or something like that?
  • 0 Offline in reply to Pedro Serra

    It's on your SELECTservices download page, the same place you download ABD. Change Download Category to "all" and it will be the most recent release listed.

    Ss6 should run on your current license. It's a huge release with lots of new features to check out, with a serious overhaul of the DataGroup dialogs being just one of them.



  • 0 Offline in reply to TomWaltz

    I'll take a look into it, sounds interesting.

    Now I'm having a new problem in Ss5..
     
    I've created some definitions (just some lists) and attached them to the objects. Now I want to change the information of those definition in my model. For structural objects it works fine, but for slabs and walls it's not working. First, when I open the "modify selected component" or the "modify slab/wall" menu, I always have to refresh the catalog for my definition to appear. After I make the changes, I go and check on the properties or on the datagroup explorer, and there is no record of the changes being made. What can be causing this behavior?

  • 0 Offline in reply to Pedro Serra
    Pedro, have you tried restarting ABD after making the initial changes?



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