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rebar and AECOsim

Pedro Serra
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Hi,

This is more of a general question.

Does anyone have any experience dealing with rebar in ABD? I know that using STAAD it’s possible to draw the rebar in ABD, but I’m using FEM programs outside of bentley. So far I didn’t find any way of drawing the rebar in ABD, is this possible? I've also looked at Power Rebar, but it doesn’t work very good with the Dynamic Views so I have to drop them to a normal drawing and lose the interactive part of it. 

Any ideas?

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  • 0 Offline in reply to Andreas Zieritz
    Whatever can be considered best practice.

    I'm not entirely sure, but from what I've seen from programs like power rebar or autocad structural detailing, they are simple when it comes to drawing the 2D and have some tools to extract quantities and produce rebar reports. If that's the case the only advantage I see in having 3D is being able to use clash detection, which is only really useful in some more complicated detailing situations.

    I'm not sure about the update of the rebar if there is any geometry change to the concrete elements doe. From my experience, power rebar and DV don't go very well together. PR needs simple elements to work - the concrete faces have to be lines, arcs, etc. The DV's produce cells (or something like that) and I have to merge all the attaches and drop the geometry to simpler elements to be able to work with PR. This makes the drawing dumb and any update to geometry means repeating the process and making PR also dumb.
    If 3D would improve on this problems would be good, but I think that may be a little bit of a stretch to the ABD capacities. At least for now.
  • 0 Offline in reply to Pedro Serra
    I don't know where you come from, but we have very good experience with an addon which is done by a norwegian company.

    www.nois.no/.../bim

    The product is very mature, and has been used for many projects here in Norway throughout the last decades.
  • 0 in reply to Pedro Serra

    DV?
    Any ways I think pro structures seems to be the bentley rebar authoring app of choice at the moment. Perhaps if you try it out and give Bentley some feedback on what works and what doesn't, it might actually work for you. AecoSim needs to use ISM as a bridge. NB Andreas has NOT had very good experiences here, apparently.
     
    Bentley seems to like using Scrum as a development approach, which as I understand it tries to limit development to incremental 'small' projects based on specific goals. So, if the particular work flow or feature is not known to the product manager early enough, it won't be implemented and you will just get silly responses to your SRs from tech support.

  • 0 Offline in reply to dominic SEAH
    Andreas,
    Thank you, it looks interesting, I'll definitely take a look at. I'm from Portugal.

    Dominic,
    DV - Dynamic Views. No?
    Yes, the ISM. I played around with prostructures a while back but I wasn’t aware of the ISM "small" detail, so it didn’t work so good for me.

    Very well, thank you for the feedback guys.
  • 0 Offline in reply to Pedro Serra

    ABD wasn't intended for modeling 3D rebar, but you can include it in drawing extractions via the Structural Drawing Center.   Search for "reinforcement" in the delivered help to return a number of related topics.  



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