How to place an arc door top-light and triple panel window

Hi, I need help with some difficulties I am facing with AECOsim. The main ones are:

1-  How can I place arc shape-like of door top-light  or be able to modify the shape of door top-light to my desired shape instead of the default rectangular top-light?

2-  How can I place triple panel (bay) window?                                                                                                                                                                                                      I have tried modifying the parameters (property & value) of 'Place Window Tool' while and after placing a window with no success of getting my desired triple vertical panel window. 

Thanks.

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  • I would recommend to have a look at Frame Builder, in general AECOsim's own tools are a joke and too complicated (i.e. Parametric Cell Studio). Another suggestion that people may give you is to use MicroStation tools (modelling tools) and apply Family & Parts to it.
  • Revit has no problems with lines/meshes when you import an RFA into Revit (which is a Revit native file). If you import DWG's into Revit, yes you will see meshes but when exporting to DWG from Revit you get the option to convert it to solids. This will eliminate the meshes.
  • The process for a toilet or actually most anything is very simple and very rewarding.

    Doors, Windows, Urinals, Toilets, Sinks, ADA H.C Fixture Layouts, furniture, .....etc.  They are all the same

    I start with a dgn file that I can hold all models of a type like "PLUMBING"

    That is where I keep the original I use.

    I set up a grid so that everything is at ground zero and has an easy location for the origin

    I have in this example anything related to plumbing.  The green and red lines are for organization and where they meet is where I would put an origin point

    Each have a Plan, A 3d Model and any related annotation I might want to show in 2d beyond the plan and elevations created.

    Proper levels, heights and even handles or fixtures, anything I might measure when annotating a drawing, etc.

    A toilet here will create a very simple plan or elevation.  Even a skewed elevation as it comes from the simple model.
    I am even trying text that will orientate itself to the view so that things like H (Handicap), C(Child) ext can be placed automatically

    As with the standard ADA placement I have some compound models that do more than one fixture.  This one is particularly useful as it helps me design the space.

    And now as I need models I will start a new compound library.  And add models I can use over and over.  All the M2.....bxc files are ones I am growing

    Right now - for me the dataset does nothing of benefit.  I don't provide schedules or any dataset BIM on these elements.  

    Only doors and windows could benefit from the dataset, however - PCS is too cumbersome to create some of my doors.

    I have here the same for a large residence.  door, windows, garage doors that I could never create in PCS.  And I did try.

    PCS is geared toward very simple dumb cells.  They don't render well and are very difficult to build and modify.

    I did create a couple like the white door in the bottom center.  One stopped working and would crash the system.  It took days to build and had to be torn down bit by bit and then rebuilt.  Very cumbersome and awkward.

    I could build these as quickly as I draw.  I know the parametrics are not there but they don't really need to be.  If I had Connect with parametrics I might use it on the frame and them build it with tools I have off the frame.  PCS does not do this well.

    MISSING, I KNOW IS THE DATASET FOR SCHEDULES.

    Right now I can create the schedules for any project up to 200 doors and windows quicker than PCS as PCS schedules are slow, and don't always work.  And the numbering on the drawings is a scary failure as it invites a problem or change order.

    I don't consider this a workaround as it seems to be a logical step toward a constrained model using Compound Cells (CCells) and Parametrics from Connect.

    Then you CHOSE whether your model will be constrained or something like a toilet that does not need this.

    ONE TOOL, FOR ALL CELLS WHETHER SMART LIKE A DOOR OR SIMPLE LIKE A SINK.

    Ustn since 1988
    SS4 - i7-3.45Ghz-16 Gb-250/1Tb/1Tb-Win8.1-64b

    Eric D. Milberger
    Architect + Master Planner + BIM

    Senior  Master Planner NASA - Marshall Space Flight Center

    The Milberger Architectural Group, llc

  • Models are always dependent on who created them. Sketup models bog my system down and are far more complicated and bad to use in many cases. But that will always be an issue unless Bentley can find some real easy way to simplify their models. A goo example is a tire. tires in Betley are efficient and good to use in my models, most vehicles I get from Google almost crash my system. they look good but the geometry they use to create a tire in big and awkward.

    Garbage In = Garbage Out

    Ustn since 1988
    SS4 - i7-3.45Ghz-16 Gb-250/1Tb/1Tb-Win8.1-64b

    Eric D. Milberger
    Architect + Master Planner + BIM

    Senior  Master Planner NASA - Marshall Space Flight Center

    The Milberger Architectural Group, llc

  • I agree on the output.
    I create a CCell
    Use a simple plan and even has things like the ADA boundaries.
    Then a simple 3d element that only renders nicely but creates a very nice 2d Elevation and is the correct height if you need a dimention from seat to floor.

    It is efficient and quick to create 2d files.

    The only thing I did not do is add the dataset for schedules as I am quicker the old fashioned way an to work with the dataset is a pain in the backside.

    Ustn since 1988
    SS4 - i7-3.45Ghz-16 Gb-250/1Tb/1Tb-Win8.1-64b

    Eric D. Milberger
    Architect + Master Planner + BIM

    Senior  Master Planner NASA - Marshall Space Flight Center

    The Milberger Architectural Group, llc

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  • I agree on the output.
    I create a CCell
    Use a simple plan and even has things like the ADA boundaries.
    Then a simple 3d element that only renders nicely but creates a very nice 2d Elevation and is the correct height if you need a dimention from seat to floor.

    It is efficient and quick to create 2d files.

    The only thing I did not do is add the dataset for schedules as I am quicker the old fashioned way an to work with the dataset is a pain in the backside.

    Ustn since 1988
    SS4 - i7-3.45Ghz-16 Gb-250/1Tb/1Tb-Win8.1-64b

    Eric D. Milberger
    Architect + Master Planner + BIM

    Senior  Master Planner NASA - Marshall Space Flight Center

    The Milberger Architectural Group, llc

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