floor manager

I am unclear on what the floor manager is supposed to do

I am told with Revit when MEP services are modelled they can be automatically annotated and dimensioned

Does the floor manager enable automatic labelling of duct/pipe levels and dimensions off grids?

If that is its purpose is there a guide or example avaliable

i have been working on a number of large projects using the Bentley mechanical software and they were all manually dimensioned and had  manually edited level cells

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  • Hi David, just to get back to your original question...
    When you place mechanical components with a floor set active, the Base Offset value set in the place component tool settings will be relative to that floor. In common with other ABD tools the Base Offset is only used at placement and is not stored.
    Regarding auto-annotation the mechanical Drawing Rules can be modified/created to show a range of values: Top/Centre/Bottom of duct and Invert levels at start and stop of run for pipework. These are all measured from model zero, not from each floor as we do not store the initial placement Base Offset.

    Marc

  • But if the elevations of floor change and thus ACS changes - Do the mechanical units , stairs, other floors, ceilings, structure, - do they change ?

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  • Koert,

    Every software has its pros and cons. We are doing huge projects using Revit and it handles it much better then AECOsim does. Trying to generate a section through a multiple story building (MEP, Structural, Architectural included), in AECOsim, it takes 30 min and doing the same section in Revit takes 20 sec (from exported IFC). The problem is that many people don't really know how Revit works, the main reason given is that it can't handle large project...we are doing hospitals, multi story buildings, big enough to me.

    Try doing the following in AECOsim;
    1. create colour schedule (in plan) which is also shown in the sections (i.e. room is red in plan and in section)
    2. change your roof footprint (without deleting the roof or creating a new shape)
    3. copy a particular level to other levels (i.e. copy floor level 1 to 3, 4, 5, 8, 11, 12, 15, 18)
    4. change properties for 500 doors in 1 go (i.e. add fire rating, add ironmongery, etc)
    5. automatically create sheets (1100 sheets) and place all views (plans, sections, elevations and schedules) of your entire project, onto the sheets (took me about 20 min)
    6. move a structural column/wall and all columns/walls on different levels align themselves automatically

    Just to name a few. I can make the list very very long so please don't give me "real projects aren't quite like the demo though". I can't post my projects here as demo can I? Bentley has always compared its current product version with an outdated version because they don't really look at what other vendors actually can do. But you know, I don't really care what Bentley does or does not as I don't use their cumbersome, pain in the back, software that much.

    I was here trying to help and give suggestions but not going to waste my time any more...

  • Hi Majang
    We think you are not wasting you time. At least you help us to see there are other softwares and to see things we want in ABD.
    Regards
  • Hi
    Is there any notice about this in ABDConnect? Any improvement?

    We have been collaborating in a very a large project in which the heights between slabs and the thicks of the slabs were changing every week. We are sorry but using the fence to extend all the walls to their new height is not a solution. Most of the times it crashes and destroy he geometry: all becomes black. We have been forced to redraw all the wallsseveral times.

    As we said before in this thread we think we must have this option from the beginning in ABD, later the user can choose use it or not depending on the project.

    Regards
    Borja
  • ABD CONNECT will not add associations between floors and walls. Wall heights can be changed in DataGroup Explorer for multiple elements rather than by fence stretch.

    Marc

  • Having the top and base of a wall match a particular floor level (offset of course possible) and keeping it there if that level changes shouldn't be that hard now should it? While you're at it take a look at Revit stairs. They actually look like they know what stairs are, and no, I'm not talking about the glorified ladders ABD seems to spit out.
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