IFC files

I have received IFC files for other members of the design team. When i import the IFC file into AecoSIM i get different (and less acceptable) results than if i open it in AecoSIM. Why is this? Secondly is there any way around this? If i import i can get the family and parts and therefore cut sections and plans etc (apart from the missing elements that disappear when i import!) however if i open it i do not get any of this and therefore cant use the model in my drawings.

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  • Hi Rob,

    Opening an IFC file in AECOsim Building Designer is comparable to opening the IFC file in an IFC viewer. The graphic output you see is usually very good but AECOsim Building Designer only creates solids.

    Importing the IFC file in AECOsim Building Designer creates AECOsim Building Designer elements as far as possible using families and parts. If AECOsim Building Designer creates a reference during the import you can merge the reference into the active file. Then you have e.g. walls, etc.in the active fille that can be edited.

    The IFC 2x3 CV2.0 data exchange format - CV means Coordination View - is only designed for a coordination view not for an 1:1 data exchange. The creation of AECOsim Building Designer elements is done as a best effort but does not ensure that all elements are displayed correctly.

    - Did you check the options in File menu > Import IFC > Settings tab?

    - As an alternative you can reference the ifc-file and then merge it into the active file.

    - You can check if the IFC export in the software that created the ifc-file offers different options. That might improve the ifc-file and also the IFC import result in AECOsim Building Designer.

    - This thread about IFC import might also be helpful: IFC import - dataset mapping

    Regards

    Johannes

  • "The creation of AECOsim Building Designer elements is done as a best effort but does not ensure that all elements are displayed correctly."

    wow, that's a pretty fundemental to say that the program doesnt do!! so how am i supposed to know if the elements are displayed correctly???? I've got a 13 storey building with many thousands of structural elements it is impossible to go through and manually check each and every one to ensure that they have been displayed correctly.

    - Yes I've checked the options in the import IFC tab.

    - I cannot reference the IFC file in as i require the model to be imported on a floor by floor basis due to it's size and for ease of use when modelling. I also need the family and parts applying so that i can get plan and section cuts taken from the model.

    - The IFC is exported absolutely fine, it's independently checked via Solibri by a 3rd party before we are issued with the information.

    - We are data mapping everything correctly and as per the IFC import thread.


    Below is just one example of a random 'block' that appears and stretches up through 13 storeys of building!!!

    The top view is taken from Solibri and the bottom view is the imported IFC from AecoSIM. This is just one of a number of similar errors we are seeing with these files and it's making it very hard for us to trust the information we are modelling against, we've had;

    - slabs disapprearing

    - random placement of structural blocks

    - flanges from steelwork disappearing

    - holes in slabs not showing

  • Hi Kristjan,
    Unfortunately nothing has happened. I'm sorry to say we still have the same problems. You can sometimes find the holes via a check-box in the properties window if you highlight the wall or slab concerned but this doesn't work in all cases. It's one of the many reasons that we have moved away from aecoSIM.
  • Thank you for answering, Rob! I'm so sad to hear that IFC import issue is still unsolved. Seems essential part of BIM-industry.
  • Very much so Kristjan. Data exchange between platforms is patchy at best hence why people are moving to a.n.other program that seems to be becoming the industry standard in the UK.
  • Rob

    Looks like Igor is busy elsewhere.

    Have you tried using Revit ism plugin? Or exporting to dwg?

    It seems like a lot of SR get stymied because the support guy can not replicate the problem.

    I wonder if Bentley should provide a settings cloning tool as part its connect services.
  • Hi Dominic,

    Unfortunately our BEP insisted that .IFC was the file exchange format of choice (as most of them seem to say currently in the UK). This allowed everyone to keep the data information intact rather than just keeping geometry as you'd get if you exported to .dwg
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