Using GC to place AECOsim object with corret ratation??

hej ppl,

I am still quite new to Aecosim with GC extension.

I tried to use GC to place some structural memebers in a grid net generated by GC.

it works fine with horizontal items using ByPoint method, from point A to B. (which means working fine when I am placing a beam)

but its not really working as I wanted if the structural member needs to be place as a column. especially if it needs to be rotated accroding to module net.

please take a look at the attached picture, the dashed red lines are girds, and the column needs to be placed at the intersection, cross section roated correctly along the grids..... but I have checked all the options, I cant use anything like set direction or define coordinatesystem to rotate the cross section. the only way is type in an angel in roatation input..... that is not really what I want....

can anyone give me some hint??

thanks a lot

Leo

  • Hi Yijia,
    Can you post your GCT file so we have a starting point?



  • hej Steve,

    please take a look at the attached file here.

    I want the brwon HEA structrucal column to align with the lines (grids) I made....

    I can use the rotation for the aligment of the cross section. but I would like to see if I can use any smarter method....

    thx

    https://communities.bentley.com/cfs-file/__key/communityserver-discussions-components-files/5917/GC_5F00_test.gct

  • Hi Yijia,
    I haven't found any way yet to rotate a structural column during placement, other than using the Rotation property as you've mentioned. So for now that's the best I can offer, though you could link it/them to a slider instead of inputting direct values.



  • Hi Yijia,

    In terms of interactive placement, GC is different from conventional CAD modeling tools. In conventional modeling the placement is the prime opportunity to determine alignments; therefore, placement interaction is very elaborate to enable users to specify that alignment.

    In GC the premise has been that these factors are determined parametrically. Therefore, Rotation on the StructuralMember is a parametric input, usually taken from nodes with which the StructuralMember needs to be aligned, for example a rotated CoordinateSystem that controls the rotation of a building or a building component. When working in a mixed mode, for example with MicroStation Line elements, users could convert characteristic Line elements and then determine from start and end points and a third point placed appropriately aligned with the global x- or y-axis, the angle of Rotation for alignment of the StructuralMember. Specific methodology usually varies situationally.

    Thus, mixed mode may appear a bit more tedious than a parametric design from the ground up.

    This is definitely yet another opportunity for enhancements especially if those can be conceived in a manner that does not reduce usability in other frequent situations.

    Regards,

    Volker

       

  • thanks Volker and Steve,
    What I am looking for is, if I have definede a roatated coordinate system (fx, along a line), than using the coordinate system as placement for the structural members. I was hoping the object will align to x or y axis as it does when placing a GC 2d cell. but I guess so far, I should just define an dirction/formual input to rotation of the object. thanks for the answer, if there is chance please take this wish in to consideration for the future update of GC. thx
    Leo