Create step in wall

Really basic function required to create a step(or a reveal/recess) in a wall in a single step. I've been muddling around this issue for 10 years nearly

Currently, I have to insert at least 2 if not more vertex's into a wall, then manipulate each section to eventually create a stepped wall line. If this is a datagroup compound wall, then inserting the vertexes/adding to form, breaks the datagroup info(any new sections do not maintain the definition or report correctly). If there is an associated space, it does not recognise the new sections of wall so I lose the link with that also. 

All I should have to do is select the tool, mark where the reveal(or step starts and finishes, and then pull out the section required. ABD should automatically fill in the returns with the same type of wall, with any spaces or other elements that are associated with hat element maintaining their association

Please tell me that ABD connect is adding some of these basic but essential functions to datagroup tools?? 

  • In short, No. i do not want to change the wall type. i want to add a step into the geometry.

    See video below for the steps i have to take to create a stepped wall from an existing. This should be achievable with a 1 step tool but as it stands i have to break/add form, turn graphic group on and off, and join to new section. The double downside is that if I have anything associated to the wall, ie a space, or slab/floor finish, as soon as i break the wall, the association is lost and i have to update these manually also. Very time consuming, very awkward and a very common task .

    this should be a basic function of wall placement and modification

  • Uuuhh I don't know what you are doing but that is a very complicated step you are taking! I would just draw the step (u-shaped part), split the wall, like you did, and join it.
  • I have an existing wall which through design development needs a step inserted into it. You are correct that what i was showing is very complicated, and that is the entire point. this should be a simple operation.

    Drawing the step, then splitting the wall to join the new section as you suggest, also loses any association spaces/slabs etc have with that wall, and again requires multiple tools to achieve.

    Once I have created a model to a certain level of detail, I expect not to have to 'break' it to make amendments.
  • I'll file an enhancement to request this ability.
    Having made such changes select all relevant spaces and use key-in 'atfupdate space' or the Update Spaces tool to reflood the spaces.
    The Forms > Update Slab by Flood tool can be used to reflood slabs but that does require a data point to confirm what is to be flooded (and the slab thickness needs to be set the same as the original).

    Marc