Create Curved Stair

Offline Don Shepherd over 6 years ago

I am evaluating Aecosim for my office and have hit a snag..

I can't find a way to create a curved stair....

ie; stair that follows a gently curving wall...

Question: Can Aecosim model a curved stair???

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0 Offline Ian Leighton Fri, Jan 20 2017 11:03 AM
Don
Simple answer is yes
Try typing in spiral staircase in Help > AECOSim Building Designer Help and search for Spiral Stairs. The help topic shows what parameters spiral staircases can be placed by.
The Stair Maker can also be accessed directly by keyin tfdialog stairs then change the configuration to the spiral staircase icon and then alter the parameters to suit and then place
Hope that helps
Ian

Ian

currently using OBD 10.10.01.151
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0 Offline Don Shepherd Fri, Jan 20 2017 1:25 PM in reply to Ian Leighton

Thanks, but I think the simple answer is "kind of"
Looks like I have to make the landing from "scratch" the railing tool doesn't recognize the stair cell unless there's another hidden tool somewhere. attaching a guardrail to a curved stair is a nightmare.

It's surprising that Aecosim doesn't have this resolved. It's not a common design element but it's not that rare to have a curved stair.
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0 Offline Don Shepherd Fri, Jan 20 2017 1:25 PM in reply to Ian Leighton

Thanks, but I think the simple answer is "kind of"
Looks like I have to make the landing from "scratch" the railing tool doesn't recognize the stair cell unless there's another hidden tool somewhere. attaching a guardrail to a curved stair is a nightmare.

It's surprising that Aecosim doesn't have this resolved. It's not a common design element but it's not that rare to have a curved stair.
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0 Offline Thomas Mahon Mon, Jan 23 2017 6:04 PM in reply to Don Shepherd

The Stair Maker tool is an archaic MS tool which regurgitates a largely unusable ossified solid that isn't compatible with any AECOsim tools, its DataGroup folly or any of its automatic annotation features. Bentley have hidden this relic away I should add - its only accessible via the Keyin.

The only viable option then is the AECOsim stair tool...which cant do spiral stairs. The simple answer is no.
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0 Offline Don Shepherd Thu, Jan 26 2017 8:22 AM in reply to Thomas Mahon

Thank you Tom, I had already come to that conclusion myself...
Well BENTLEY, why do you not have a curved stair generator in AECOsim??
I can do this in REVIT in 10 minutes...
I want to recommend AECOsim to my firm because I like a lot of things it does but it's really an issue when you're building a model and you run into something that CAN'T be done....
I know I can build the stair from scratch but that isn't the point really...

Now I wander what will be the next thing it CAN'T do??
Just had to vent...

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0 Offline Thomas Mahon Thu, Jan 26 2017 9:40 AM in reply to Don Shepherd

Be careful, questions like that will open Pandora's box! To avoid stoking a potentially explosive subject, I would suggest:

1. If you are mainly producing all of your information in 2D, and create 3D models primarily for visualisation and concept development, look no further than Microstation

2. If you are working on BIM projects from Level 1 or above and efficiency, relevance and competitiveness are high on your agenda (not forgetting the ability to create BIM-ready curved stairs) look no further than Revit or ArchiCad
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0 Offline Borja Gutiérrez Febles Tue, Jan 31 2017 2:51 AM in reply to Don Shepherd
We also like AECOsim but there are things or issues that make us not to make a final decision:
- Quantities and reports do not work fine with solids. You must use forms tools to create 3D elements with quatities and they are odd.
- Dimension association don't work properly. If you put associative dimensions onto a 2D plan generated from a 3D model and the you update the 3D model, the 2D geometry is updated to but the dimensions do not.
- Parametric world is not easy in AECOsim.
- And so on....
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0 Offline martinezx Sun, Jul 5 2020 1:28 PM in reply to Borja Gutiérrez Febles
2020 year - is this possible now ?
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