PROBLEM WITH WALLS IN REFERENCED FILES

IF REFERENCE IS ATTACHED OF FILE IS CREATED WITH "WALL ASSEMBLY" THE MODEL WILL NOT SHOW UP IN EXTRACTION, EVEN THOUGH THEY APPEAR IN THE 3D MODEL.  HOWEVER, IF THE REFERENCED FILE IS CREATED WITH SIMPLE "WALLS" AND IS ATTACHED, IT WILL BE EXTRACTED.
  • Hi, Richard,

    Could you please send me a sample set of files?  We have not seen this problem.

    Thank you,

    Steve Stevens
    Product Manager - Bentley Architecture

  • STEVE

    YES  - WITH THIS PLEASE FIND 3 FILES; MODELEXP14, MODELEXP15, AND MODELEXP16 WHICH I CREATED (IN ARCHITECTURE XM VERSION - NOT THE V8i) TO DEMONSTRATE THIS PROBLEM.  YOU CAN ALSO EASILY CREATE THESE YOURSELF TO TEST THIS.

    1. MODELEXP14 IS SMALL RECTANGULAR PLAN MADE USING THE "PLACE WALL" TO PLACE THE "DEFAULT" EXTERIOR WALL.  IT SHOWS UP PROPERLY IN BOTH THE 3D MODEL AND THE 2D PLAN VIEW.

     

    2. MODELEXP15 IS A SIMILAR PLAN USING THE "PLACE WALL ASSEMBLY" TOOL TO PLACE "ASSEMBLY-BNB-04-2-4" .  IT TOO SHOWS UP PROPERLY IN BOTH THE 3D MODEL AND 2D PLAN VIEW.

    3. MODELEXP16 IS A MASTER FILE TO WHICH BOTH MODELEXP14 AND MODELEXP15 HAVE BEEN REFERENCED. 

        A.    MODELEXP14 WAS ATTACHED, SHOWED UP PROPERLY IN THE 3D MODEL AND IN THE 2D EXTRACTION.

        B.  MODELEXP15 WAS ATTACHED AFTER WHICH IS SHOWS UP IN THE 3D MODEL, YET NOT IN THE 2D EXTRACTION.

        C.  IN ADDITION TO BOTH THESE REFERENCES - A SHORT WALL WAS ADDED TO THE MASTER FILE OF EACH OF THE SAME WALL TYPES AS USED IN EACH OF THESE REFERRENCES AND THEY SHOW PROPERLY IN BOTH THE 3D MODEL AND THE EXTRACTION.

    PLEASE DO NOT HESITATE TO POINT OUT SOMETHING BASIC THAT I AM DOING INCORRECTLY - LIKE NOT PLUGGING IN THE TOASTER THAT IS NOT WORKING.  ABILITY TO USE ALL WALL TYPES IN REFERRENCES IS CRITICAL TO OUR UTILIZATION OF REFERRENCES FOR REPETITIVE STANDARD BUILDING AND ROOM CONFIGURATIONS.  PLEASE LET ME KNOW HOW TO ADDRESS THIS.

     RICHARD PAROLY, ARCHITECT

    MODELEXP16.dgn
  • Richard, please check to make sure that MODELEXP15.DGN is included in your Group Model as well as being attached to the 3D model.  If it is missing from the Group Model none of its graphics will be processed.

     

    Sincerely,

    Steve Stevens
    Product Manager - Bentley Architecture

  • Please explain what that means.  What step is required other than "attaching" the "referrence" in order to achive having MODELEXP15.DGN "included" in my 'group model".
  • When attaching reference files to the master model, they will not be automatically attached to the group model unless the Synchronize Reference Attachments setting is toggled from the main Drawing Extraction Manager dialog (icon in the middle).