Change Clip Volume Settings for individual reference files within Reference Presentation

Hello

This is my first post. I hope someone can help me please?

I have a file with 2 models referenced in. I need to produce a section callout showing one referenced model as solid hatched fill, the other to be wireframe and greyscale:

The image below shows the desired outcome (reference 1 on the left solid hatched fill, reference 2 greyscale wireframe) but I could only achieve this by creating 2 section callouts and overlaying these on top of each other. If I try and do this using only 1 section callout, they both either hatch, or greyscale (depending on the Clip Volume Settings I choose). Is there a way to achieve the desired output using only one section callout?

It's not a big problem using 2 callouts, but it makes the drawing file untidy. Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Kind regards 

Graham

  • Graham

    Welcome to the community, in order for somebody to be able to help you additional information is needed.

    Can you tell us which version of software you are using eg AECOsim (10.xx.yy.zzz) and any other software and if possible upload a file to show what the issue is. This will help people hopefully to provide you with an answer.

    One immediate question I have is are the two callouts on the same plane?

    Ian

    Ian

    currently using OBD 10.10.01.151

  • Hi Ian

    Thank you for your quick response. The version of AECOsim I am using is SS6 08.11.09.866. Yes the two callouts are on the same plane. This is the only way I can think to do it?

    My client would not appreciate me uploading their file to this community, so I will attempt to reproduce something and upload it.

    Thanks

    Graham 

  • 0028.Bentley Communities example drawing.dgn1362.CONNECTION CULVERT.dgn0523.PILES.dgn

    Hi Ian

    I have uploaded the drawing and the two reference files. Piles need to be solid fill, Connection Culvert needs to be greyscale. By opening the drawing you should be able to see the composition. If this can be steamlined it would be great.

    Thanks

    Graham

  • Hi Graham,

    Since it looks like both sets of elements cross the cut plane, essentially you need two different sets of Section resymbolization if a single Callout is used.   The simplest method would be to choose parts that display exactly what you are looking for; e.g., heavier lineweight and fill/pattern for the Piles and a lighter grey color with no fill/pattern for the Culvert.   That is, if this is how they are to appear in all drawings.    Is the example above a one-off or the norm?

    If it is the latter, another option could be to Cache the drawing, use the Copy/Hide Cached Elements command, and then recolor those copied elements.  https://communities.bentley.com/products/building/building_analysis___design/w/building_analysis_and_design__wiki/27802/hide-unhide-cached-elements



  • Hi Steve

    Thank you for your reply. Yes your wording is exactly what I need - I need 'two different sets of resymbolization within a single cut'. As far as I can see, presentation/clip volume settings can only be set for the reference, not for individual ‘nested’ models within that reference.

    Your solutions are great, but unfortunately do not work for my problem. Here are the reasons:

    The Connection culvert that needs to be greyscale is from a different contractor. We are showing their model ‘for information’, but it needs to be greyscale to differentiate between our work and works 'designed by others'. In their drawings, the other contractor will need to show their design with solid fill / hatching pattern, so we cannot ask them to change their parts / families as it would not display correctly in their drawings.

    The 2nd option would work, but because of CAD compliance / CAD QA we are not allowed any 2D linework in the section cuts, so we cannot copy cached elements and then change them, as you suggested. Also, because it is a collaborative and evolving design, the other contractor's model is constantly changing, so we need to keep the reference live or 'dynamic' to ensure we pick up these changes.

    The way I have it set up at present, passes our CAD compliance and maintains a dynamic section cut to automatically update when changes to the models are made. I just don't like having 2 sections in the same position showing the same thing, just for the sake of greying out other contractor's models / designs.

    To clarify, the example is the norm. Anything 'we have designed' needs to be solid fill / pattern. Anything 'designed by others' needs to be greyscale.

    I hope this makes sense? Any solutions to change individual 'nested reference' presentation or clip volume settings would be greatly appreciated.