Creating and Elevation (Is there a better way)

i MUST CREATE FINISHED ELEVATION OF MY BUILDING IN A 2D LINE DRAWING FORMAT.  tHIS IS STANDARD WHEREVER i GO AS THE RENDERINGS WON'T PRINT WELL ON MANY MACHINES AND ARE NOT MADE FOR WORKING DRAWINGS AS TOO MUCH WORK IS REQUIRED WHEN THE CAD FILE IS STANDARD.  So.... 

 Because of issues here is what I have to do to create an elevation.

1.  Create my Building View  (Works fine however items like roof valleys don't show)

2. Save to another file (Called Drawing File which references the Buildling View of My Model)

3.  "Save As" to another file  (Same name in different folder)  With Switches set supplsedly merged lines show up better..  I also merge everything to create a good 2d file
|ssues I have are joints like Valleys don't show and there are many ghost lines.  This is because Unify does not always work and NEVER works with PCS items.

4.  Open the Drawing View

5.  Reference the 2d Merged veriion

6.  display off the Drawing View

7.  Pattern based upon hte 2d Merved file as you cannot pattern an elevation based upon a drawing view

8.  Basically redraw alot of  the elevation as there are many gaps that are made in the drawing view

9.  Now finish patterning

10.  Add weights to things like overhangs and where buliding are out in front of other parts of the buildings

11.  Add dashed elements like where stairs are and where each floor is

12.  Display off the 2d Merged file and Display on the Building View

NOW make a single change to the model and the Building View is updated but everythgin else must now be modified.

1.  Open the Building View

2.  Move all the stuff drawn on top of the refererenced files (up 100')

3.  Resave the file overwriting the Mered 2d file

4. Open the merged 2d file and remove those patterns and lines that were moved in the Drawing file

5.  Open the Drawing file and move the annotation and patterns down 100'

6.  Make changes

NOW make a change like correcting one slab and.....

WHY NOT ADD PATTERNING TO FORMS IN FORWARD AND REFLECTIVE VIEW.

 

  • Creating an drawing extraction from the DEM is still a valid option where Dynamic Views don't meet your criteria.



  • I agree. For production and uninterupted workflow, I believe users should continue relying on DEM. In the near future, once Building Views/Drawing Views are solid in the methodology and function, then an all out switch can be implemented. DV is nice now, and definately worth experimenting with, but whats the point in interupting your workflow when there still is a reliable vehicle to knock out your work?...
  • The problem is stil the same - NO PATTERNED ELEVATIONS

    Is using DEM a workaround for some of the issues like "ghosting "  that dot't allow you to hatch a wall.

    In DEM I still get gaps and I still have to redaw that elevation everytime there is a change.

    Since DEM was never complete as far as elevations are Building Views to be a fix or just another way to do something not fully there until something else gets developed?

    Ustn since 1988
    SS4 - i7-3.45Ghz-16 Gb-250/1Tb/1Tb-Win8.1-64b

    Eric D. Milberger
    Architect + Master Planner + BIM

    Senior  Master Planner NASA - Marshall Space Flight Center

    The Milberger Architectural Group, llc

  • The DEM works well at the cut line, but has never, in my view. reached a high level of accuracy for the forward view for either floor plans or building elevations. That is why I am very hopeful that the Dynamic View functionality will help solve that problem because it is more accurate than DEM. Howver, the DV is not there yet. I have tried it on a tall building and when the clip volume is applied, some levels are turned off. Another problem is that glass becomes transparent, displaying element behind the glass. So the concept of DV is an improvement over the DEM, but it  needs a lot more work. I would also recommend a way of locking a dynamic view because a dynamic view is nothing more than a saved view rendered in hidden line, and it is easy to change/update a saved view, and that would completely mess up the building elevations in the drawing set. Lastly, the hidden line rendering that take place with clip volume can take excessively long on a large project, especially as you move the cut line of the clip volume.
  • I agree.  the greatest benefit and time saver though is the ability to now make changes to the model no matter where you are in your drawings as EVERYTHING is a view of that model.  On an elevation make a change.  Don;t worry about going back to here, extracting there, checking that extraction, and going back again.

    My ititial problem is ghosting of element that are not there but seen with your mouse.  These effect functions such as flood slab, and pattern elevation.

    Second is the exclusion of some lines.  I'm currently playing wiht the resolution to see if that help.  Yoda says, "But out of the box this should be."

    Ustn since 1988
    SS4 - i7-3.45Ghz-16 Gb-250/1Tb/1Tb-Win8.1-64b

    Eric D. Milberger
    Architect + Master Planner + BIM

    Senior  Master Planner NASA - Marshall Space Flight Center

    The Milberger Architectural Group, llc