[OBD U5] stfplace tool setting dialog

Just wondering if I can have a separate tool setting dialog for the stfplace commands (column, beams etc.) rather than as a ribbon? I have my ribbon in compact mode, I access to my required tools through toolbars. Everytime I place something that involve the Placement ribbon, I have to click on the ribbon to get to the settings. 

Best regards,

Tuan Le

  • Tuan,

    We found a defect in the ribbon where it's not behaving correctly in compact mode. It should be switching to the contextual tab so you don't need to click on that tab manually. It's supposed to switch to that ribbon tab whenever you launch a command that uses it and return you to the previous tab when you reset.

    As time goes on, I would expect to see more placement options in the ribbon, not in a separate dialog.

  • Can I submit a change request to have tool settings stays in structural property panel? I just can't understand why we need 3 different places for tool settings. 

    Can you please share the defect number? so that I can submit a SR to track it. 

    Also to clarify, the ribbon does switch to Placement ribbon, however, because it is in compact mode, I have to manually expand it to get to my settings. The fact that I have to refer to the ribbon for placement settings is already a massive time waster. 

  • Was hoping to avoid doing so, but looks like I'll have to take the plunge.

  • Hi Tuan,

    Great, thank you.   Just wanted to be sure it was official.

  • The defect I was referring to was something we found internally, where the contextual ribbon wasn't always showing the placement options. Sometimes it was showing the non-contextual "modify" version of the ribbon tab instead of the version that's supposed to be shown when a placement command is running or an element is selected.

    It required a few back-and-forth clicks on the ribbon tabs to get it to behave. That's already fixed.

    Have you tried working with the ribbon open instead of in compact mode? I'm curious to know why you prefer keeping the ribbon in compact mode when ti seems like expanding it would speed things up for you.

    Below you mentioned other things in the ribbon not working correctly. Can you give me more detail on what's not working correctly?

  • I'm curious to know why you prefer keeping the ribbon in compact mode when ti seems like expanding it would speed things up for you.

    To be honest Tom, I can't think of any scenario that would make the ribbon speed things up over the good old toolbars. Taking the placing primary steel column as an example:

    1 - Mouse from middle of screen goes to ribbon to activate tool.

    2 - Mouse from ribbon goes to datagroup dialog to select correct section profile.

    3 - Mouse from datagroup dialog goes back to ribbon to select rotation, placement point etc.

    4 - Mouse from ribbon back to middle of screen for placement.

    Full circle around screen, even before you're able to place anything in the model.

    Ribbon is in compact mode because we have no use for it, and keeping it open is just a waste of screen space, which is never enough for a designer. Whatever tools I need, it is always accessible through custom toolbars, no need to switch between workflows, tabs, hidden menu etc. I'm curious as to which workflow would you have utilised ribbon over task menu/toolbar that would make it speedier than SS6, as I'm yet to see any speed gain, ever, in working with ribbon. 

    As for ribbon issues, if you have a look at my SR list, there are a few of them in there.

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