Hi,
Following up from this:
https://communities.bentley.com/products/building/building_analysis___design/f/aecosim-speedikon-forum/161065/abd-ss6---centroid-information-for-member-placement/477228#477228
and this:
https://communities.bentley.com/products/building/building_analysis___design/f/aecosim-speedikon-forum/182031/obd-u5-au_onesteel-xml-centroid-data
How do I place structural member along its centroid line? Angles and PFCs are still placed incorrectly.
Best regards,
Tuan Le
Hi Tuan,
From whatever we have seen, the place by centroid method works properly for beams of most section libraries across various Datasets.
Can you point out any particular section library where centroidal placement option is not working so that it can be rectified soon?
Regards,
Tathagata
Looking at your snapshot Tathagata, the placement point looks very much like middle,center, not true centroid.
Raguram,
I am told that there are separate teams responsible for each location-based dataset. Do you guys keep a log that tracks the updates and changes made by each team?
These days, the quality of the components available is a huge part of any BIM authoring app. It would be good to be consistent. A problem with the components / dataset will stop new users in their tracks and discourage them from learning OBD.
dominic SEAH said:quality of the components
In my oppinion, since SS6, CE offerings have been anything but.
Yes, and it will probably get worse before getting better as new tools and functionality are introduced. I wonder if there is enough attention/ resourcing given to the effect new changes or tools have on the existing dataset components.
A big selling point for BIM apps is the OOTB component library. One reason ArchiCAD was very successful growth-wise was the fact that the comprehensive and finely-tuned components that came with the app. The target market / user was a sole practitioner that did mainly residential work. Sole practitioners who did not have much time to understand IT, be a super scripter etc... on a Macintosh (naturally!). He could confidently do a resi job using the industry standard details without having to tinker.
Bentley seems to have gone in the opposite direction, by not paying attention to the dataset, assuming that there will be copious resourcing on the user side to author and maintain site-specific datasets. Big projects. Big users.
This is now becoming a big problem and more and more competitors appear, and more and more CAD admins with Bentley know how retire... leaving younger ones who are overwhelmed and reluctant to report problems.
hi Dominic,
dominic SEAH said:Do you guys keep a log that tracks the updates and changes made by each team?
Notes about the dataset, with CONNECT Editions especially, the dataset updates (delta) are included in the Dataset_XXX folder as a pdf document. This would be helpful I suppose.