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OpenBuildings | AECOsim | Speedikon | Forum [OBD U5] AU dataset - placing member by centroid
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    [OBD U5] AU dataset - placing member by centroid

    Tuan Le
    Offline Tuan Le over 4 years ago

    Hi,

    Following up from this:

    https://communities.bentley.com/products/building/building_analysis___design/f/aecosim-speedikon-forum/161065/abd-ss6---centroid-information-for-member-placement/477228#477228

    and this:

    https://communities.bentley.com/products/building/building_analysis___design/f/aecosim-speedikon-forum/182031/obd-u5-au_onesteel-xml-centroid-data

    How do I place structural member along its centroid line? Angles and PFCs are still placed incorrectly. 

    Best regards,

    Tuan Le

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    • Tathagata Saha
      0 Offline Tathagata Saha Mon, Aug 5 2019 12:08 PM

      Hi Tuan,

      From whatever we have seen, the place by centroid method works properly for beams of most section libraries across various Datasets.

      Can you point out any particular section library where centroidal placement option is not working so that it can be rectified soon?

      Regards,

      Tathagata

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    • Tuan Le
      0 Offline Tuan Le Mon, Aug 5 2019 7:22 PM in reply to Tathagata Saha

      Hi Tathagata, 

      Can you tell me which default workspace and workset you used for your snapshot? I used the AU dataset and below is what I get:

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    • Tuan Le
      0 Offline Tuan Le Mon, Aug 5 2019 11:08 PM in reply to Tathagata Saha
      Tathagata Saha said:
      works properly for beams of most section libraries across various Datasets

      That is really intriguing, as I just did a quick test and I see completely opposite.

      Test procedure: placing an unequal angle structural member by centroid placement option.

      Dataset(s) seems to work properly: US

      Dataset(s) doesn't work: AU, DE, NM, NZ

      Dataset(s) that have center placement same as centroid placement (which is wrong): CN, DK, ES, FR, IT, SE, SG

      UK dataset crashes for me and I haven't got time to do a clean install. 

      So from my test, there's only US dataset that is working properly, all other datasets either not working for centroid placement, or working wrongly. 

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    • Tuan Le
      0 Offline Tuan Le Tue, Aug 6 2019 2:38 AM in reply to Tathagata Saha

      Looking at your snapshot Tathagata, the placement point looks very much like middle,center, not true centroid. 

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    • Raguram Jayaram
      0 Offline Raguram Jayaram Tue, Aug 6 2019 3:28 AM in reply to Tuan Le

      Hi Tuan,

      The  Centroid placement point is enabled only if the section is fully symmetric (wide flange I beam) or if the section properties includes a value for centroid.

      Section properties are defined within xml files in the Data folder of the delivered datasets.

      Example, if you are using UK dataset, the default location would be C:\ProgramData\Bentley\OpenBuildings CONNECT Edition\Configuration\Datasets\Dataset_UK\Data.

      Centroid values (X, Y) can be added or modified for various section profiles by editing the xml files, using an xml editor or using the StructuralShapesTemplate.xls in the Data folder.

      Once the centroid information is included, the placement by centroid method will place the structural members in the respective centroid defined for that profile.

      Check this Snapshot:

      Hope this helps.

      Best regards,

      RJ.

       

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