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OpenBuildings | AECOsim | Speedikon | Forum [OBD U5] AU dataset - placing member by centroid
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    [OBD U5] AU dataset - placing member by centroid

    Tuan Le
    Offline Tuan Le over 4 years ago

    Hi,

    Following up from this:

    https://communities.bentley.com/products/building/building_analysis___design/f/aecosim-speedikon-forum/161065/abd-ss6---centroid-information-for-member-placement/477228#477228

    and this:

    https://communities.bentley.com/products/building/building_analysis___design/f/aecosim-speedikon-forum/182031/obd-u5-au_onesteel-xml-centroid-data

    How do I place structural member along its centroid line? Angles and PFCs are still placed incorrectly. 

    Best regards,

    Tuan Le

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    • Tuan Le
      0 Offline Tuan Le Tue, Aug 6 2019 3:37 AM in reply to Raguram Jayaram

      Hi Raguram, 

      I first raised the issue back in SS6. Was told it's been fixed in CONNECT. See here:

      https://communities.bentley.com/products/building/building_analysis___design/f/aecosim-speedikon-forum/161065/abd-ss6---centroid-information-for-member-placement

      Then as you can see here, I was told it is working correctly in CONNECT.

      Now you are telling me that I need to do some more work with the files delivered by Bentley to make it work correctly. 

      So which is it? 

      Best regards,

      Tuan Le

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    • Tuan Le
      0 Offline Tuan Le Tue, Aug 6 2019 3:41 AM in reply to Raguram Jayaram
      Raguram Jayaram said:
      Centroid values (X, Y) can be added or modified for various section profiles by editing the xml files, using an xml editor or using the StructuralShapesTemplate.xls in the Data folder.

      But why those information was not included in datasets other than US? I wouldn't have thought it is up to end users to fill that in. If this is not a defect in AU, DE, NM, NZ, CN, DK, ES, FR, IT, SE and SG dataset, does that mean OBD U5 works as designed? 

      Best regards,

      Tuan Le

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    • Raguram Jayaram
      0 Offline Raguram Jayaram Tue, Aug 6 2019 3:54 AM in reply to Tuan Le

      Tuan,

      I am not sure why the centroid information is missed out in the other datasets. Perhaps an enahncement shall be filed to include them.

      Based on my test case and understanding, looks to me placement by centroid is working as designed.

      Best regards,

      RJ.

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    • Tuan Le
      0 Offline Tuan Le Tue, Aug 6 2019 4:09 AM in reply to Raguram Jayaram

      To me it's more of a defect. Whichever way you want to call it, can I request it to be filed and fixed? 

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      0 Offline Tuan Le Tue, Aug 6 2019 6:06 AM in reply to Raguram Jayaram
      Raguram Jayaram said:
      The  Centroid placement point is enabled only if the section is fully symmetric (wide flange I beam) or if the section properties includes a value for centroid.

      Hi Raguram, going by the above quote, why does the centroid placement is still enabled in the placement ribbon when there's no centroid information in the defective xmls? 

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