Losing Overrides when making Direct Attachment

RE: Losing Overrides when making Direct Attachment

Raguram Jayaram — Thu, 22 Aug 2019 16:09:54 GMT

hi Richard,

I tested your workflow by making the changes in the nested references.

I noticed the reference level overrides are maintained even after making it as a direct attachment.

Yes, I am using CONNECT Edition.

I trust our support team would update you, responding to your Service Request.

Best Regards,

RJ.

RE: Losing Overrides when making Direct Attachment

Richard Parker — Thu, 22 Aug 2019 11:06:12 GMT

Hi Raguram,

So this is similar to the workflow I was trying to describe. The only difference in my case was that I applied overrides in the nested attachment after it was attached (allow level edit within nested references was turned on obvs).

Regardless, in either of those situations (mine and the one you demonstrate in the video), I am not able to retain overrides. If I apply the overrides before or after, once the direct attachment is made, the overrides are lost and symbology reverts back to the settings in the source file. I think this could be tested quite easily using V8i.

As you can demonstrate this is possible, I am guessing then this has been addressed in the build in CONNECT? I see you are using CONNECT Edition.

Can Bentley confirm?

Regards,

Richard

RE: Losing Overrides when making Direct Attachment

Raguram Jayaram — Wed, 21 Aug 2019 12:58:04 GMT

Richard,

Here is a simple test case based on the attached video clip, OpenBuildings Designer, CONNECT Edition, Update 5.

1. "ArchitecturalElements.dgn" file references "StructuralElements.dgn"

2.Level display and overrides are applied for the reference "StructuralElements.dgn"

3."LevelOverrides in DirectAttachment.dgn" file references "ArchitecturalElements.dgn" file, with Live Nesting enabled.

4. From the references dialog, "StructuralElements.dgn" file is made as direct attachment to "LevelOverrides in DirectAttachment.dgn".

5. Level display and overrides of "StructuralElements.dgn" files is retained as it was modified in the "ArchitecturalElements.dgn".

communities.bentley.com/.../Level-Overrides_5F00_Reference-Direct-Attachment.mp4

Have I not understood your problem correctly, please let me know.

Best Regards,

Raguram.

RE: Losing Overrides when making Direct Attachment

Steve Cocchi — Thu, 15 Aug 2019 21:38:04 GMT

Hi Richard,

Raising an SR probably is best. I'm not sure whether the MicroStation team will handle the investigation but it is possible since I don't believe AECOsim/Building Designer changes their behavior.

RE: Losing Overrides when making Direct Attachment

Richard Parker — Wed, 14 Aug 2019 08:51:27 GMT

Hi Aditya,

Thanks for the reply.

The issue here is not whether overrides apply or not. It is that overrides are changed on attaching. So regardless of whether or not you apply View Flags, the level override settings change - for example, colours will revert back to those applied in the source file prior to attachment.

There have been many times this has been raised - going back to 2010 and a few of these posts below mention the same:

https://communities.bentley.com/products/microstation/f/microstation-forum/95243/changing-from-live-nesting-to-copy-attachments

https://communities.bentley.com/products/microstation/f/z_-archived-microstation-v8-xm-edition-forum/59002/make-direct-attachment

No-one had a way of managing this without a copy and paste from referenced source file (the settings I want in the nested reference) to active or direct ref. file. following the Make Direct Attachment command.

I also raised an SR related to this question and very keen to hear back on how to manage it.

Thanks,

Richard

RE: Losing Overrides when making Direct Attachment

Aditya Chatterjee — Tue, 13 Aug 2019 18:54:32 GMT

Hi Richard,

Have you tried the recommendations provided in this wiki ?
Please have a look and let me know if this helps.

Regrads
Aditya