Call out Not Creating Saved View or Drawing in Sheet Model

AECOsim Building Designer SS6

Hi All,

In a COMPOSITE MODEL, i have generated a DRAWING and SHEET models in separate design files using the plan call out. Meanwhile, In the same SHEET model i am unable to generate SAVED VIEW or DRAWING using the section call out. It places the call out quite alright but this section call out is not linked to any saved view or drawing whatsoever. 

I have been told by a colleague that for this to work, the composite, drawing and sheet models must all reside in the same design file as opposed to what i have done by separating each model into single design files. Is this a fact or an opinion? and more so, is there a way around this as i want all my callouts to be linked (Hypermodelling) to their respective saved views and models. Unfortunately, the BIM Execution plan (BEP) for the project i am currently working on dictates that all design, drawing and sheet models must be created as individually design files.

I welcome any useful suggestions as i look forward to hearing from you all

Thank you

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  • Hi Henry,

    It seems to work ok here in Ss6.   In the attached video I created new/separate Drawing and Sheet files from my active file, and in that resulting sheet file i placed a Section callout and generate new Drawing and Sheet models within that same Sheet file.  



  • Hi Steve in your "resulting sheet file" and using the section callout, is it possible for you to create the section DRAWING and SHEET models in separate/individual design files instead of the same sheet file as you have done previously?   

  • Hi Henry,

    You're welcome!

    Any chance you could upload that sheet file here with the referenced border?  I'm not really sure why a callout isn't generated within the sheet boundary...



  • 3224-LU-MAC-P055_7-DR-K-0100.dgn

    Hi Steve,

    Please find sheet model attached as requested. Just to make you aware, I only have this issue on this particular sheet model file. The rest work fine regards creating saved view and drawings on the sheet.

    Meanwhile, all I have just done in the meantime is to improvise by moving both the border and sheet boundary far away from the plan reference as much as possible, create ALL my callouts, saved view and drawings then move the border and sheet boundary back to coordinates 0,0.

    This way, the sheet model was able to pass the CAD QA checks but I have to keep moving the border and sheet boundary away each time I need to create a new callout.  

  • Hi Henry,

    I referenced in a 3D model but had to move it into place since the GO in the Sheet file was shifted.  After doing so I was able to place a new section callout in the sheet and generate a new external drawing from that.   However, I also noticed that the Sheet model has a solids resolution 100X less than our delivered seed files - the Solids Working Area is 429 km vs. 4.29 km.  This may also be a factor if your files are using the same resolution across the board.   Can you check?



  • Hi Steve,

    compliments to you and thanks for the update. TBH, I am inclined to concur with you conclusions. why? I had other issues with some of my library files. As soon as I sync the units & solid working area (didn't change their Global Origin though) in those dgnlib files with my seed/current design file, they just resolve!

    I have checked all my models and references and they all share the same units, global origin & solid working area across the board. Meanwhile, as a rule of practice, we are compelled to work in Meters unit else the files wouldn't pass the in-house CAD QA and unfortunately,most of the Bentley seed units are defined in Millimeters.   

    So, what method of approach do you suggest for my units, global origin and solids working area if MUST work in Meters?  

  • Hi Henry,

    You are welcome!   

    The coordinates themselves are not so much a factor as is modeling within the Solids Working Area for best results.  I don't think using Meters as the master unit is in and of itself an issue so long as the solids resolution intact.   We typically recommend using Geo-Referencing/Coordination to achieve real-world coordinates while also giving solids modeling and drawing production the accuracy they required.   A good place to start with this is this blog article by Marc Thomas: https://communities.bentley.com/other/old_site_member_blogs/peer_blogs/b/marc_thomass_blog/posts/setting-up-in-the-real-world-georeferencing

    This older Wiki article also discusses the general topic of solids resolution: https://communities.bentley.com/products/building/building_analysis___design/w/building_analysis_and_design__wiki/10507/bim-solids-working-area-resolution



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