Hi
We use this workflow and have one file for each of these steps. Our drawing has the callouts attached as cached.
Sometimes I want to make a callout containing only certain types of elements, eg. only steel and concrete elements. For this, I've started to use display styles and display rules but I have a problem.
This is how my callout looks with my standard section callout.
By creating a display style and rule and connect it to my saved view I can show only my concrete and steel elements. This is done in my design composition file (step two in the first image).
Since I created the display styles and rule in my design file they don't exist in my drawing file, but when I attach the saved view to my drawing file, the display style and rule are attached as well.
Everything looks good. And if a change is made to my design, I can update the cache from my drawing file without any problem.
I can also attach the drawing to a sheet and when I do it looks just fine:
But when I make a change to the design and go straight to my sheet (without opening my drawing first), I get the option to update my chaced view:
When updated, it don't follow my rule anymore (red elements below are timber elements).
It's not strange since the display style and rule don't exist in my sheet file:
So. How is this supposed to work.
Why does my drawing have the display style and rule imported with the attachment of my saved view, but the sheet don't?
Regards,
Robert
I have run into this same problem before with trying to use Display Rules to hide or dither existing elements referenced into the 3D. What I have found out is that when creating a display rule in the 3D model for attached references, you are only applying the display rule to the immediate reference or the 1st nested attached reference but when you create the saved view and reference it into the drawing model or by using the section call-outs your drawing model is now referencing a saved view which is now adding another level of nested references so the display rule will not recognize the rule anymore. Try modifying the display rule to look further into the nested references to work in the drawing model but keep in mind that the display rule will not work in the design model.
R RUSTON said:you are only applying the display rule to the immediate reference or the 1st nested attached reference
I haven't noticed this. I thought it was the sheet model that was messing with my display rules. But you are correct, it's because my sheet is the 2nd reference I'm having this problem!
I'm glad this came up again because I completely lost track of it before!
Based on R RUSTON's findings I created a new Display Style with a linked Rule that disables the display of ducts + fittings. I use this Display Style + Rule in a 3D model that includes ducts + fittings as do two reference attachments, one a local model and one from a different DGN file. When applied to the 3D model, all of the ducts and fittings disappear. I then create a new plan drawing and use the same Display Style w/ Rule for the forward view, and sure enough there are no ducts + fittings displayed as long as visibility is disabled. I've attached a short video showing these results using Update 9.1.
R RUSTON said:you are only applying the display rule to the immediate reference or the 1st nested
So I tried to implement this to my existing workflow but found yet another hiccup. This statement is correct in cases like Steve's example above, where the rules are created in a design file and referenced to a drawing file.
So I tried another scenario. I created a design file, drawing file and sheet file. A callout from the design file is attached to the drawing file and the drawing file is attached to the sheet file. Normal procedure. Since we've established that the rules and display styles won't carry across two attachments, I created a new display style and rule in my drawing file. But despite this, my display style and rule is no where to be found in my sheet file!
Steve Cocchi said:and sure enough there are no ducts + fittings displayed as long as visibility is disabled
So Steve, could you try the same thing but with a sheet file instead. Because that is where my problem seems to be.
Hi Robert,
Sorry for never replying back!
I just reopened the file I used last time around in Update 9.1 and whatever displays in the Drawing file (Display Rule on or off) is what displays in the Sheet file as well. Is this what you meant?