Hello,
I am trying to find a way, similar to Revit, where I can show wall types in different colour. In Revit, a WALL FILTER is added with an override.
The above image shows what I am trying to achieve you can see that different colour has been applied to different wall types, visible in different views.
How do I achieve this in OBD without the need of creating extra drawings? The only way I can think of is to add the fill colour manually in the DV, The downfall, the solid fill will not change when the actual wall is changed/moved in the 3D model.
PS: I am struggling to understand why OBD can't do simple things and why there are always extra steps required to achieve something?
Hi Nasir,I have made a small video of how the colour of the walls can be changed as per your requirement. HTH.Regards,Shreya
Hi Shreya,
Thank you for the video but that is not my question. It is not about applying parts. I need to highlight particular wall types in the design. In my example you can see a floor plan showing colour and no colour.
So, I want OBD to show me all Internal-Block-Walls-100 in RED on the Ground Floor in my drawing (2D Output). How do I do that? In Revit, I apply a filter to Internal-Block-Walls-100, so, the filter only will lookup wall styles named Internal-Block-Walls-100 and highlight them in the model.
Yes, I know about the Display Rules... however the problem is:
1. It does not work on a DV (plan, section) generated from the model (even DV extraction being in same file)
2. When exporting to DWG you loose the Display Rules set.
This is very frustrating, as project requires DWG outputs for sharing.
So your question is actually about how to set symbology in drawings in OpenBuildings that can be exported to DWG?
This has been asked for in the Ideas forum, go there and search for DWG, you will find "Convert Display Rules to DWG".
Linked to this idea is enhancement 663047 "WYSIWYG save to DGN/DWG using display rules" and is being worked on for a future release. The objective of this enhancement is to simplify export of views from Bentley applications.
If you wish to be advised when this enhancement is included in a commercial release please file a service request referencing this enhancement number.
In the meantime if elements that need to be colour codes are separated by level you might find that the level remapping available in DWG export could meet some of your requirement. If they are not separated by level then that will obviously not help.
Regards
Marc
Hi Marc,
No, I will explain my question in more detail.
We have a 3D model containing hundreds of walls on multiple floors. We have now been asked to colour code walls, using fill pattern, on every floor, i.e. all Internal Stud Walls in GREEN, all Internal Block Walls in RED and all Internal Fire Rated 60 min Walls in PURPLE.
Display Rules only honour 3D views (your example only contains 3D views), it doesn't work on extracted drawings from the 3D model using Dynamic Views. The extracted 2D drawings files do not show the set Display Rule, see image below.
We are also required to share the model in 3D and 2D. Exporting the 3D model to DWG will remove the Display Rule, the 2D result is already wrong. So as usual, after exporting more steps are required to correct the drawings.
Now, is there any easy way to get what I am looking for in OBD? The Revit screen capture is WYSIWYG without any extra steps and/or work-arounds.
PS: This enhancement (Display Rule DWG export) request was logged at least 2 years ago. We require this feature now and not in any future releases.
I don't see this. After you create the section or plan (or before, if you want to set it up in a Drawing Seed) are you making sure the rule you created in 3D is applied to the Display Styles for the Cut and Forward styles? See video
Drawing, Model or both? This seems to work for the drawing. See video. For the model, I wouldn't expect it work. DWG has no concept of Display Rules.
As Marc mentioned you could try to make use of Mapping Tables during the Save As / Export to DWG so a colour is applied (rather than an override which is what Display Rules are) to the exported elements.
Hi Stuart,
Thank you for the video. I will check the Cut and Forward Style, I don't think I did set that.
We are required to share both model and drawings, having it only working in drawing is not really helpful.
Regarding the DWG files, I know what is and what is not supported. The client is asking for walls being highlighted with a fill colour and that is what we have to deliver. All configuration, settings, deliverables and file naming has been provided by the client. So, there is no option for delivering information that is not asked (coloured lines rather then fill colour) as this will be rejected automatically.
The above image shows what I am looking for, a 2D plan/section where wall types are highlighted by filers/overrides (fill colour) and exported to DWG. A task that OBD seems unable to handle easily?
The only workaround I can think of is after the DWG export, add the fils manually, and doing this will take forever because of the project being huge.
On top of that, we have also been asked to create +10,000 sheets by end of this month. In Revit, we can push +1500 sheets in couple of hours, every view (plan, section, elevation) will be placed automatically on the correct sheet and in the correct location. In OBD, every process is manual so the best we can do is 400 sheets a week!
So, here is my question, is there any quick workflow/workaround in OBD to achieve:1. the export of a DGN to DWG showing the fill colours (as shown in above image)2. putting all the views on the sheets
Creating sheets has always been the most cumbersome and time consuming task in MS/OBD (creating saved views, reference and/or drag views into sheets, move to correct location etc.).
PS, if GC is mentioned, please bear in mind that there is no time and there are no resources for that.
I found a way to get the Display Rules exported to DWG, which is a good thing.
Now how to create +10,000 sheets by end of this month. Any ideas?
Nasir Ghani said:A task that OBD seems unable to handle easily?
Sounds like all you need to do is change the Family and Parts settings for the walls with different thicknesses, incorporating the different colours / fills. The F&P info is saved as .xsd files so you can make a copy and replace after exporting?
Nasir Ghani said:PS: This enhancement (Display Rule DWG export) request was logged at least 2 years ago.
Yes. judging by the glacial pace that dev works at, it will probably be at least another 3 years before we see this in Mstn. Always been like this. Not sure why.
Nasir Ghani said:The only workaround I can think of is after the DWG export, add the fils manually, and doing this will take forever because of the project being huge
Only if you can not write VBA or Autolisp to batch process. The standard Mstn DWG translator has a remap table that could be used in conjunction Bylevel to get you your desired fills.
Not sure what else needs to be remapped but Axiomint has been doing this kind of thing for a while probably has a lot covered.
Nasir Ghani said: found a way to get the Display Rules exported to DWG, which is a good thing.
Interesting! What did you end up doing?
Nasir Ghani said:Now how to create +10,000 sheets by end of this month. Any ideas?
Even more interesting! Do you mean going from dgn sheets to dwg sheets? Presumably, the drawing views are already done and have some annotation already?