KeyNote file missing from ISO19650 Dataset

See below error. The defined Uniclass_SS.spc file does not exist in the ISO19650 dataset.

CD_Master.spc and CDMasterFormat 2004.spc are the only spc files delivered with the dataset. Is this an omission from the dataset, or a SS Keynote spec variable? 

 

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  • Hi Duncan,

    Thanks for raising this issue, I have tested the same i.e to see the list of Keynote ( from Ribbon: Building Design > Drawing > Place Annotation > Legend (split button) > List Keynote or via Key-in - LIST KEYNOTES ) and gets the same alert message in only the ISO dataset, other dataset is behaving as expected. I will be discussing this issue with our DEV team to get further clarification and will update you. 

    Regards,

    Shivam Soni

  • Hi Duncan, 

    I have discussed this issue with our DEV teams and they confirm its as a bug. Can you please raise a Service request so that I can file a bug against the ISO dataset?

    For the time being, go to the Ribbon: Building Design > Drawing > Place Annotation > Change file 


    Change the name of the Keynote list file Spec: from TFKEY_DIR:CD_Uniclass_SS.spc to TFKEY_DIR:CD_Master.spc and afterward you can use the keynote list without any alert message.



    Hope it helps.

    Regards,

    Shivam Soni

  • No problem.

    What I forgot when searching for the file is that we have not as yet provided Uniclass keynote files. The one I found was an output from the method described in Keynotes - Creating your own Keynotes list. There are a lot of Uniclass tables and they are updated frequently. While we do update the Uniclass classification property picklist in the Catalog, keeping keynote files up to date would probably just result in impractically large keynote lists, so it is probably better for people to create their own, although we do need a sample to avoid the file missing message.

    The SS table I added is similar to one Dominic posted some time ago but probably from a newer Uniclass list.

    Marc

  • Thanks for that Marc, very useful to know. 

    The first line of your note states - The Keynotes tool is a legacy tool that does not fully integrate with more recent annotation tools but can still be very useful. 

    It isvery useful for detailing when we are not directly referencing a model

    How would you recommend adding spec notes in this case? I can obviously add to catalog data and tag however this can be extremely time consuming and hard to keep track of. Ideally I would like to reference the Keynote table from the datagroup catalog, much as we can access uniclass tables etc. 

    This would allows us to maintain a central spec file, updated by our spec writers or senior architects that can be referenced into the catalog.... 

  • The challenge with the Catalog is that while creating a new property that contained a list of property values would be straightforward:

    and a bit of work with Excel to XML could squirt an easily maintained list into the property definition EnumLookup that property would have to added to all of the relevant Catalog Items....

    Sample files attached:

    <?xml version="1.0" encoding="utf-8"?>
    <DataGroupSystem>
    	<Version major="1" minor="0"/>
    	<DisplayNames name="">
    		<DisplayName name="listtest" displayName="List Test"/>
    		<DisplayName name="listtest/@speccode" displayName="Spec Code"/>
    	</DisplayNames>
    </DataGroupSystem>
    <?xml version="1.0" encoding="utf-8"?>
    <DataGroupSystem>
    	<Version major="1" minor="0"/>
    	<EnumLookups>
    		<EnumLookup definition="ListTest" property="ListTest/@SpecCode" extendable="true">
    			<Enum value="spec1"/>
    			<Enum value="spec2"/>
    			<Enum value="spec3"/>
    			<Enum value="spec4"/>
    		</EnumLookup>
    	</EnumLookups>
    </DataGroupSystem>
    https://communities.bentley.com/cfs-file/__key/communityserver-discussions-components-files/5917/ListTest.xsd

    Marc

  • Hi Duncan,

    You are welcome and thanks for raising the SR.

    I have attached your SR with the Defect Report 824655  and will notify you once resolved.

    Regards,

    Shivam Soni

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