Hello,
I would need to create doors and windows with parametric cells (CEL file), to place them on walls similar to PAZ cells.
I do not see any example in the catalog delivered with the program. Only PAZ and BXC files exist
I also haven't found any videos explaining the process to create doors and windows with parametric cells.
Is it possible to create doors and windows with parametric cells (CEL file), with the OBD version up9.1, include them in the catalog and place them on walls?
Thank you
Antonio
OBD CE 10.09.01.38
Hello Antonio,
Yes you can create parametric door & windows and place them on walls as required. Please check the below examples for reference.
https://communities.bentley.com/products/microstation/b/microstation_blog/posts/named-presentations-and-perforators
https://communities.bentley.com/products/microstation/b/microstation_blog/posts/smart-3d-modeling-blog-series-parametric-sliding-door-and-partition-assembly
https://communities.bentley.com/products/microstation/m/microstation_gallery/272651
Hope this helps you to get started with the door creation.
Regards,
Alifur
Hi Alifur, thanks for the information.
I have tried what he indicates in this publication that he indicated to me.
It doesn't seem to work properly.
I have created a cell. (red= model view, black=top view and green=front view)
If I place the cell as a parametric cell it seems all right. Driller is not displayed
If I place the cell from the catalog the perforator is displayed. This is incorrect.
See image
When I want to get a plan view. The model, top, front and perforator views appear. This is incorrect.
Only the PAZ cell works well
If I modify the width of the door, they change the width of all the doors, but only in the section.
...This does not work correctly. It can not be used to place doors and windows. PAZ files are the ones that currently work.
Is there a solution that I can use to use parametric cells in doors and windows or it just doesn't work currently?
Hello, with release of OBD 10 I think parametric perforators are now finally working on OBD walls. however having big difficulties hooking cells up to datagroup.....Eventually found this post again andthe line....Hello Johan, to place the door in the catalog you must place the file MyDoor.cel in any folder of ATFDIR_DOOR
It would be appreciated, and extremely useful if this was actually documented. From what i can see in help doc, there is instruction on how to create and schedule via a report, but not how to add to datagroup catelogs
Duncan Gammie said:with release of OBD 10 I think parametric perforators are now finally working on OBD walls. however having big difficulties hooking cells up to datagroup.....
Hi Duncan,
Did you test this, did you already upgrade to Update 10?
I looked over the "What's new" page and was disappointed not to find much (if anything at all) related to perforators, except for the Compound Slabs.
Hi Johan,
Yes I have installed U10 and tested. perforators are now working. But not much point if I cant connect these to datagroup catalogs.
Also having massive issues updating Parametric cell definitions once initally attached(with difficulty)
thanks for the information! I indeed also noticed your other lost about the updating of cell definitions. I also saw a post of yours on the MS forum. Do you use "plain" MS as well? Or was that also related to OBD? If so, it's worth mentioning because even platform technology not always performs identically in OBD compared to MS.
Anyway, I was hoping for U10 to be the update that would allow me to finally build a catalog of doors, windows, ... based on Parametric Cells. But judging from the issues you ran into I'm afraid I'll have to wait some more.
I have been waiting about 15 years for parametric cells to create just that, door and window catalogs that can be used in both MS and OBD. PAZ cells and PCS was so clunky that I resorted to using CCells for last 15 years to be able to create decent geometry and 2D representations. Parametric cells have everything we need but if difficulty in updating is not fixed, then next to useless.
spend a huge amount of time creating content that has to be discarded or turned into CCells to use in OBD.