Composite Walls

Is there a way that you can make a composite wall look like a basic wall when you create the extraction? There have been some projects that I have worked on that Compsoite wall would be the best wall to use. Although we don't use them due to the fact that all the parts in the wall show up when we make the extraction. is there anyway we can use the composite wall but when we make the extraction the composit wall looks like it was a single wall?

we currently are using: Bentley Architectural V8 XM Version 08.09.03.37

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  • Just remember that in order to unify, all components of that wall assembly must touch - no gaps as Robert mentioned - and they must all use a common unifier part.

    In regards to "masking" the assembly to show something else, not possible AFAIK.  But I think this is similar to what Bentley Structural and Building Mechanical Systems do with single line drawing rules; i.e., completely replacing the 3D appearance of an object with something else altogether.  Perhaps this is something that will be feasible down the road as Architecture takes advantage of DV based drawing rules....



  • Define masking. 


    If you are asking can you make a wall look different in a different type of extraction, you should look at Part Mapping files when doing an extracton.

    Basically, you could create a different part to a wall in  Plan vs. Section or  Elevation, and tell the Extraction to use a Part Mapping XML file to swap out Part "A" for Part "B".

     

    And as Steve said, hopefully this will be enhanced in DV.

    Thanks,

    Shawn

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  • My understanding of "mask" was to remove the inner wall lines, leaving just a "shell" in the extraction... which could be accomplished by unifying the individual wall components, under the right conditions.

    Of course, my ramblings could just be "masking" the real intent...   

    OK, OK, I'll stop now...   :)



  • ah, now that's different.

    One thing we (the community) has always asked for or talked about is Wall Assembly philosophy.

    Some say that you should model each piece of a Wall System, thus you can then get accurate Quantities of each part of the wall (brick, cmu, wainscot, drywall, etc.).

    I know of some that will model the wall system as a single wall, and then use CenterLine replacement to represent the Wall System in Plan/Section.  Also, much easier to manipulate a single wall vs. multiple, but youmay not get exact quantities as you'd have to count the Wall System as one entity, and get your quantities from that.

    As you say, if you go Scenerio #1, sometimes it's hard to remove the inner wall unless you have a very good Part library and unify properly.

    OK, I'll stop now, too.

    Thanks,

    Shawn

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  • This definitely sounds like something that could be useful for future drawing rule implementation  - resymbolize a wall assembly with either a single line or double line representation.

     

    Stop, part II.