Hello,
I am fairly new to the Bentley World and want to set it up properly for my users who haven't used it at all. What I would like to do is setup the standards and DNG templates and other items that the end users will need on the server and have Bentley look there for these items.
Dimension Styles, Layers, Wall Configs, tags and callouts.
What I am lacking is what to look for and where in the configuration would I find the paths to point the others to? Is there a book or a white paper somewhere that I can refer to for this?
Thank you for the help
tcfonts:
Having not that long ago been exactly where you appear to be with your BA deployment I feel compelled to pass along what little info I can to help you out. In addition to this forum, which you're obviously discovering as well, there were two other external resources which we have found extremely helpful. At the midwest Microstation User Group's Conference last year there were a couple of sessions I attended which covered the topic of creating and deploying a corporate workspace. The presenter was very knowledgable, made great use of the condensed time frame and his leave behind reference material was/is very targeted and useful. We had been struggling to get the product sensibly deployed for a few months by then and this UserGroup conference experience really helped us get our firm's deployment over the hump and fully funtional. A few months later I attended Bentley's instructor-led " Microstation...for CAD Managers" course for a more elaborate, in-depth exploration of the topics covered in the user group conference's mgmt/admin sessions. Since we're located in a city with no Bentley resources beyond the local user community this meant travel expenses on top of the fee for the course plus my man-hours but in the end it still proved a very sound investment for our firm (and I'm not a Bentley employee nor have I been solicited for this plug either BTW). Both the UserGroup-Presenter and the Bentley-Instructor did a great job and I don't hesitate to recommend either of them but, beware, these learning opportunities still did fall a little short in that they only covered 2-D Microstation without any reference to the Building verticals. We were able to find our way from that point (thanks in part to the users on this forum as well as the Bentley tech support guys) but perhaps the v8i version of the Bentley mgmt/admin class, which I notice from the lms server listings is now being offered, will be different in that respect. I notice that you unfortunately just missed an offering of the multi-day Bentley "...CAD Managers" class but if you navigate to the MCMC user community page at this site you'll notice that their annual conference is coming up in August. If your need is more urgent than that I would be happy to pass along the contact info for the vendor who presented at the conf last year whom I suspect would be open to a private tutoring visit to your facility (and I'm not getting any sort of kickback from him either).
I look forward to Mr. Wagner's posts as well as we'll soon be migrating from our BAXM deployment to a BAv8i one.
Another thing I just thought of... While in the Workspace Configuration dialog, change the sort order from Alphabetical to By Level. This will show you how variables are grouped at the System, Site, Application, Project and User level. And this will more or less show you the "load sequence" of those variables - with User variables being the last to load.
Looking at this aspect could help show how some variables are overwritten or prepended/appended during the load process, which in turn may give you ideas about how to redefine variables for some projects but not others.
OK, we are going to have a lot information in this thread, maybe we can parse it all out at a later date (!). There are several ways to do this.
But, here's my take on the first steps to doing a relatively simple networked set-up.
1. Create a folder location on your server for the networked workspace location, e.g., e:\BIM\Workspace\
2. Copy the delivered workspace from the installed location. So, copy all the folders under c:\...\Workspace\ to the newly created network location (in this example e:\BIM\Workspace\ ).
The delivered workspace will probably be on your hard drive in this location: C:\Documents and Settings\All Users\Application Data\Bentley\MicroStation\WorkSpace\ Note that 'Appliction Data' is a hidden folder so in Windows Explorer you need to have "Show hidden files and folders" set in Tools->Folder Options->View->Hidden files and folders->Show hidden files and folders
The delivered workspace will probably be on your hard drive in this location: C:\Documents and Settings\All Users\Application Data\Bentley\MicroStation\WorkSpace\
Note that 'Appliction Data' is a hidden folder so in Windows Explorer you need to have "Show hidden files and folders" set in Tools->Folder Options->View->Hidden files and folders->Show hidden files and folders
3. Once that is copied over you should have a folder structure like this (note that I have structural and mechancial apps installed so I have extra folders) :
This is the start. Next post will go from here.
<Paul Wagner> wrote in message news:62730@communities.bentley.com... OK, we are going to have a lot information in this thread, maybe we can parse it all out at a later date (!). There are several ways to do this. But, here's my take on the first steps to doing a relatively simple networked set-up. 1. Create a folder location on your server for the networked workspace location, e.g., e:\BIM\Workspace\ 2. Copy the delivered workspace from the installed location. So, copy all the folders under c:\...\Workspace\ to the newly created network location (in this example e:\BIM\Workspace\ ). The delivered workspace will probably be on your hard drive in this location: C:\Documents and Settings\All Users\Application Data\Bentley\MicroStation\WorkSpace\ Note that 'Appliction Data' is a hidden folder so in Windows Explorer you need to have "Show hidden files and folders" set in Tools->Folder Options->View->Hidden files and folders->Show hidden files and folders 3. Once that is copied over you should have a folder structure like this (note that I have structural and mechancial apps installed so I have extra folders) : This is the start. Next post will go from here. http://communities.bentley.com/Products/Building/Building_Analysis___Design/f/5917/t/26367.aspx#62730
regards / Thomas Voghera
Thomas Voghera: Paul can't use the wiki for this? -- regards / Thomas V Good idea, once done, I will compile the steps from the posts here and create a wiki for it.