adjusting a BV

If I have made a BV in 8,110769 and want to ad a reference, or change levels
that are included in the "cut" - how do I do that?

Tried to update the sv - but nothing changed in the "drawing".

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regards / Thomas V
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  • Dynamic Views are attached to the drawing/sheets by default as unsynchronized (MS_REF_DEFAULTSETTINGS), this prevent unintentional changes to be propagated into drawing and sheets. To synchronize DV changes you made, you will want to synchronize view. To do this, locate the DV reference in the reference dialog, retrieve the attachment settings (Settings>Attachment Settings) and select the toggle at the bottom of the Attachment Setting dialog to "synchronize with Saved View "". and select OK. You should see the changes you applied to you DV definition. You may want to return the DV attachment state to be unsynchronized.

     HTH,

    Jeff Ashley



  • DEM definition was/is what is set in DEM-dialog.
     
    "DV definition" ? Can you explore please.

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    regards / Thomas V
     

     
    <Jeff Ashley> wrote in message news:105699@communities.bentley.com...

    Dynamic Views are attached to the drawing/sheets by default as unsynchronized (MS_REF_DEFAULTSETTINGS), this prevent unintentional changes to be propagated into drawing and sheets. To synchronize DV changes you made, you will want to synchronize view. To do this, locate the DV reference in the reference dialog, retrieve the attachment settings (Settings>Attachment Settings) and select the toggle at the bottom of the Attachment Setting dialog to "synchronize with Saved View "". and select OK. You should see the changes you applied to you DV definition. You may want to return the DV attachment state to be unsynchronized.

     HTH,

    Jeff Ashley



    http://communities.bentley.com/Products/Building/Building_Analysis___Design/f/5917/t/46688.aspx#105699

    regards / Thomas Voghera

  • Steve
    When you say "BV" what do you mean?
     
    All collected settings of the Saved View+clip volume?
    Shall I read Building (Saved) View?

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    regards / Thomas V
     

     
    <Steve Cocchi> wrote in message news:105948@communities.bentley.com...

    I'm not Eric, but...  perhaps he means he attached the BV to a view window in the 3D model itself; i.e., created a "multi-model" view?   I like this method for changing things in the 3D model and interactively seeing the results without having to switch models... 



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    regards / Thomas Voghera

  • Hi Thomas,

    BV = Building View, which is essentially a Dynamic View with additional building-specific attributes such as Part resymbolization, annotation, etc.    You can tell one from the other when opening View Attributes - a Building View will have a "Building" tab at the bottom with tabs similar to DEM, such as Cut Plane, Forward, Back, Drawing Rules, etc. 

    Regarding the issue you're seeing... I'm not really sure.   If the Synchronize option is checked on in Reference Attachement Settings (as outlined by Jeff), and the references being modified exist where the BV was created, everything should "just work".  Have you tried creating a new BV to verify that the reference updates do in fact come through?

     

     



  • Hi Steve
     
    reg DV/BV -
    I know what it does, but what IS it. What is it made of?
    Not a file somewhere- right?
    A bunch of settings in the composition Model - right?
     
     
    reg updating ref of/off
    I get it to work ONLY after switching off, then on live nesting in the "drawing".dgn Then the correct references are shown.
     
    Same for another guy 500 km off, but also using Swedish dataset. We have both spent to many hours the last day switching files. Fresh installs of 8,11 both. And together I guess we have 30 years or more of ustn/TF/BA experience.
     
    (this resembles something I saw a few times many moons ago when references wern't reloaded. You had to restart ustn/BA to get the references right. Impossible to recreate for support ofcourse. And yes I have "reload references when changing files" ON. )
     
    Any one up to a http://www.ammyy.com/en/ or other remote desktop share?
     

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    regards / Thomas V
     

     
    <Steve Cocchi> wrote in message news:106286@communities.bentley.com...

    Hi Thomas,

    BV = Building View, which is essentially a Dynamic View with additional building-specific attributes such as Part resymbolization, annotation, etc.    You can tell one from the other when opening View Attributes - a Building View will have a "Building" tab at the bottom with tabs similar to DEM, such as Cut Plane, Forward, Back, Drawing Rules, etc. 

    Regarding the issue you're seeing... I'm not really sure.   If the Synchronize option is checked on in Reference Attachement Settings (as outlined by Jeff), and the references being modified exist where the BV was created, everything should "just work".  Have you tried creating a new BV to verify that the reference updates do in fact come through?



    http://communities.bentley.com/Products/Building/Building_Analysis___Design/f/5917/t/46688.aspx#106286

    regards / Thomas Voghera

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  • Thomas Voghera:
    Hi Steve
    reg DV/BV -
    I know what it does, but what IS it. What is it made of?
    Not a file somewhere- right?
    A bunch of settings in the composition Model - right?
    I'm not a developer so I can't give you the technical jargon, but the way I look at it you have: 1) A Saved View utilizing a Display Style, which is 2) Referenced into a 3D model, forming the actual "Drawing View", which is then 3) Referenced into a sheet model, which is the end result.   From that sheet model you can also generate sections, details, etc., which are essentially "peripheral" Drawing Views extracted from a "core" Drawing View.  This all my personal description, of course.  :)
    Granted, the above is a simpllistic explanation, and there are settings that come into play with the creation and management of Drawing Views.  Such as the Synchronize Attachment option which for some reason does not seem to be working for you...  But why, I honestly do not know.     Have you tried creating a new BV to verify whether the changes you made are reflected from the start?



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  • Thomas Voghera:
    Hi Steve
    reg DV/BV -
    I know what it does, but what IS it. What is it made of?
    Not a file somewhere- right?
    A bunch of settings in the composition Model - right?
    I'm not a developer so I can't give you the technical jargon, but the way I look at it you have: 1) A Saved View utilizing a Display Style, which is 2) Referenced into a 3D model, forming the actual "Drawing View", which is then 3) Referenced into a sheet model, which is the end result.   From that sheet model you can also generate sections, details, etc., which are essentially "peripheral" Drawing Views extracted from a "core" Drawing View.  This all my personal description, of course.  :)
    Granted, the above is a simpllistic explanation, and there are settings that come into play with the creation and management of Drawing Views.  Such as the Synchronize Attachment option which for some reason does not seem to be working for you...  But why, I honestly do not know.     Have you tried creating a new BV to verify whether the changes you made are reflected from the start?



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  • >>Have you tried creating a new BV to verify whether the changes you made are reflected from the start?
    I'll have a ga with it later this week. I tested everything I could possibly think of.
    I'll test with the US dataset and fresh files etc.
     

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    regards / Thomas V
     

     
    <Steve Cocchi> wrote in message news:106921@communities.bentley.com...
    Thomas Voghera:
    Hi Steve
    reg DV/BV -
    I know what it does, but what IS it. What is it made of?
    Not a file somewhere- right?
    A bunch of settings in the composition Model - right?
    I'm not a developer so I can't give you the technical jargon, but the way I look at it you have: 1) A Saved View utilizing a Display Style, which is 2) Referenced into a 3D model, forming the actual "Drawing View", which is then 3) Referenced into a sheet model, which is the end result.   From that sheet model you can also generate sections, details, etc., which are essentially "peripheral" Drawing Views extracted from a "core" Drawing View.  This all my personal description, of course.  :)
    Granted, the above is a simpllistic explanation, and there are settings that come into play with the creation and management of Drawing Views.  Such as the Synchronize Attachment option which for some reason does not seem to be working for you...  But why, I honestly do not know.     Have you tried creating a new BV to verify whether the changes you made are reflected from the start?


    http://communities.bentley.com/Products/Building/Building_Analysis___Design/f/5917/t/46688.aspx#106921

    regards / Thomas Voghera

  • Sounds good, Thomas.  Definitely let us know how you make out!