Does BA know if doors are right/left handed?

I'm looking at scheduling from BA (v8i SS1) and was wondering if it's possible to export handing information? As far as I can tell it doesn't and the only way to achieve this would be to create two sets of each door and rely on user accuracy (made even more difficult in BA given how each door is capable of being placed interactively and modified with a single click!).

 Any help/ideas welcome!

Thanks,

Alex Shovelton

  • Alex,

    Handing has always been an issue since the dawn of the door schedule. I think you would need to do this via instance data rather than rely on the placement of the door though. You cannot get away from the fact that you are, at some point, reliant on the person placing the door to get it right - or left as the case may be :-) .

  • Thanks Dennis,

     Does this mean I need to create separate R and L files for each door or is there a way around this?

     Alex

  • I'm not Dennis, though I can write "g'day!" with the best of them...    ;-)

    I think what Dennis is implying is to create a property to represent L or R, and include that in your door schedule.

     



  • Scheduling remains an awkward thing, since what you said is true: each door (or any frame for that matter) can be altered at will without changing the name of the door. This can only be prevented using shared cells for your doors and windows. In that case, if you change a property of the door, you are forced to choose a new name, or apply the change to all doors with the same name. In the practice in the Netherlands, door and window schedules are not just a list of each and every item in the project, the schedule presents a drawing in front view of each  frame type, annotated with: the frame type name, the count of items in the project, the dimensions, etc. This way the manufacturer of the frames can see immediately what he has to produce: howmany types of frames and howmany items per type.
    Scheduling this from BA is not straightforward possible. For example, the option: match wall for the frame thickness is nice for preliminary phases, but for construction drawings and scheduling a nuisance. The current schedule presents a list of all the frames in the project, and it is possible to have frames with the same name that are different from eachother.
    What we need, IMHO, is doors and windows that act like shared cells, and a scheduling routine that presents a list of occurring frame types with a count of items per type.
    So that, in your case, changing the hand of a door would force you to change (for example) the L to R in your frame name, and doing so the schedule would add an item to the number of R type frames and subtract an item from the number of L type frames.
    HTH   André
  • Here is an example of a door/window schedule for a project which is being built at the moment. I did this project in BA V8 2004. I used shared compound cells (from Frame Builder) for the frames. This drawing was produced by placing each type 2 times (in 3D), one lying on the ground and one standing upright, then made an extraction with DEM in plan view. So the ones lying on the ground represent the front views of the frames, the others the plan view.
    The scheduling was done using a tag report (each item was tagged in the master 3D model of the project) and counting the number of items per type was done in Excel. From there the text on the drawing was added as plain text.