I've produced some building views, but I'm having some troubles with coordinates in the resulting drawings.
They simply don't match the original coordinates, which makes it almost impossible to reference BV from different floors onto each other.
Either is this a problem in the BV system, or I've done something which I shouldn't have done.
Any hints?
I have the same problem with elevations. I created grids to be referenced to the elevations. I created the grids based on the location of the model. When the elevations are cut as BVs, I cannot reference the grids directly to the BV. The refs must be moved into place, which is just another chance for something to go wrong.
So far, I am less than impressed with BVs usablility.
This isa day one problem with BV and has not changed yet. I logged the issue Jan 2009, but guess it is not thought of as important.
The problem is compounded as your views can also change location if you have to recreate them. they need to be relative to the section and the global origen or the original.
Ustn since 1988SS4 - i7-3.45Ghz-16 Gb-250/1Tb/1Tb-Win8.1-64bEric D. MilbergerArchitect + Master Planner + BIMSenior Master Planner NASA - Marshall Space Flight CenterThe Milberger Architectural Group, llc
I'm really quite new to BV, so probably I am not understanding the whole concept correctly.
When you are creating your model, I assume that you are working in the default model, and not in the drawing model.
What I mean is that the coordinates in the drawing model MUST be correct, as I need to be able to reference axis, or other stuff into it before referencing it into the layout.
Or is it possible to create your model via the drawing model as well?
First I create a reference file for each area of my buildlnig - exterior walls, stairs, roofs, interior 1st floor, 2nd floor, gutters, etc. I use this as a tool to make things easier to work with and to also effect speed of drafting
Then I create a master model that references all files. Up to thsi point everyting is relative to (0,0,0) or some other origen. Note than when I craete interior wall I have to first attach teh exterior wall and then draw in relation to that,. As with each file I make it has files attached to help in making htat file. So I have everyting related to each.
The building view are just that :Special views" of the building. I typically create a drawing view which is nothing more than a separate file with an attached reference of the master model with the "Buidling View" as the view I've used for the way I see that master model.
I could also just create a building view. Then create a separate empty file and then attach the model using the BV I just created. That would be thesame thing . Bently just created a way to quickedn the steps for creating this Drawing.
This issue now is that if I reference all my buildign views together they do no come at the location of the cut. They should. but the reality is that this is not a strongly needed feature. Like I mentioned before, how many times have I dont this to creating a working drawing? NEVER.
The only issue is if I have to recreate the section it might have changed from the location of the annotations. I then open my file with the annotation, attach the new BV as my old was deleted by me by mistake, and then move may annotations. THSI SHOULD NOT BE NECESSARY, but it is workable and does not happen often.
Communication with other disciplines?
How about those of them who still are working in the 2D world? Until now I usually would export the drawing extraction to dwg. As far as I understand that would be the drawing model now.
Btw.: I would really appreciate if you (or someone else) could post an example file to communities. Regarding documentation Bentley has really improved things with the "Best practice" manuals. But I am missing some example files which we could use to try for ourselves.
No - I do this also for my older MS engineers and Autocad Engineers
For me it is easier to create an externall drawing view as it is closer to the way I working in DEM
I end up with a drawing for each section, elevation or plan.
then I just grab each and batch translate
Hint: If you ahve to create both V7MS and Acad files. Translate to V7 files first then those v7 to Acad. It is quicker
Andreas Zieritz: How about those of them who still are working in the 2D world? Until now I usually would export the drawing extraction to dwg. As far as I understand that would be the drawing model now.
For your first question you can take your finished BV (typically a sheet) and "vectorize" it by doing a Save As with the Merge Visible Edges toggle checked ON in the References tab. This new output file is not dynamic, but you can think of it as your finished DEM output without having to go through muliple DEM iterrations to get there - as Eric pointed out.
For your second question, the Drawing Model is typically the first stop on the "Create Dynamic View" train - it's the model where the DV is referenced and oriented to be parallel to the cut plane. And yes, you can certainly do the Save As operation above from here, though I'd imagine many use the Sheet Model which references that Drawing Model, though it's not a requirement. But either is the Drawing Model - When creating the Dynamic View you can bypass the Drawing Model altogether and have the DV referenced right to the Sheet Model. It's all about choice/preference.
Update to my first post:
The problems with wrong coordinates is not so severe. Its just that for one reason the reference is not inserted in 0,0,0 but somewhere else.
Just editing the reference settings and deleting the reference base is enough to fix the problem.
Just for reference, I filed CR # 293489 requesting the ability to precisely and consistently place DVs on a sheet.