URG : Problems crossing TRIFORMA to Bentley ARCHITECTURE

  • hi BE com.

    first, sorry for my bad english. i dont know if it's the good forum for my question. tell me if it's not the case.

    We work with Microstation V8 2004 and Triforma. In 3d, to make sections, we use the drawings manager. It's ok, no pb. Recently, we want to migrate to V8I.

    During a training, two things :

    - we see that we need Architecture to have the same render (unifications, parts, family...).

    -we try to use dynamics view but it doesn't work (why??? i dont know why but not important) so we decide to continue using the drawings manager like in Triforma.

    So we have adapt our configurations (macro, mdl, cells,...) to V8I + Architecture.

    At the begining of the first 3d project, i have a problem. Some cells or part of cells are not calculate by the DEM. they dont appears in the 2d view. But with Triforma, with the same cells, the same file, it's ok. i dont know why???

    Is anyone have this pb and is anyone have a solution?

    So i decide to return to V8 2004 + triforma for my project because i haven't time to solve the pb. But i retry to use the DV because it's great. and it's working. this time it's working. YES. at this time, i think that we are going to use the DV instead of the DEM and the pb is resolved.

    Not to easy because using the DV create new problem.

    I can make my 3d, create my construction view (unification, parts family...), create a 2d model and put in reference the construction view, put my text, cotation... ok my sheet is make. i can print the sheet (with the rasterized option). it's work.ok great so what's the pb!!!

    I have to give the sheets to our partners and our customers in pdf (no pb) but in DWG too. when you export the sheet the render is not the same (no unification, no part and family rules...). it's a pb that i dont have when using DEM becaus it's calculate physics elements.

    How can i make a 2d dgn or dwg sheet with the same render that in my 2d model in architecture to give to my customers (who have autocad  or others...)??

    If someone use the DV. Can he tell me how he work with his partners or customers when he give us the project.

    thank for your answer.

    bye

  • Just two very short comments from myself.

    1. If you want to export your drawings to someone else, stay with DEM (drawing extractions) for the moment. Dynamic views are nice for working with the model in real time, but they are not perfect yet.
    2. If you plan to migrate from a previous version to V8i, you will need to use new seed files for your drawing extractions. There have been some issues when using pre-V8i seed files in our office at least.

    Otherwise migration worked quite problem free in our office at least.

  • "How can i make a 2d dgn or dwg sheet with the same render that in my 2d model in architecture to give to my customers (who have autocad  or others...)??"

    From your finished DV, choose File > Save As to create a new DGN file.  But before you click OK, open the Options dialog and check the Merge Visible Edges option.  This should generate a "vectorized" version of your DV; i.e., similar to what DEM does.   It's a nice way of using DVs for the interim back & forth work, while still providing a DGN with "static" geometry as the end result.  Take that new DGN and use it to save to DWG.



  • Hi steve

    thanks for your answer.

    I try but bad rendering. all the "parts and family rules" diseapeared and there is no unification...

    The only way i found, when i'm in 3d with a referenced construction view, is to use "export visibles edge".

    it's the only way to conserve the parts rules and unification and have a 2d desing with physics element.

    But i'm not going to make my text and annotations in 3d. In 2d when i references construction view, i put text and annotations... but the option "export visible edge is not available in 2d. so...

    Steve did you use Architecture ? are you using parts and family? have you the same render (unification...) when you export with this option?