BV, DV and detail of design

FACT: BV's add detail information and smarts to elements. FACT: BV ALSO SLOWS THINGS DOWN GREATLY? With that in mind. I look at the examples used for building models with BA and NONE HAVE DETAIL? in fact I can create them all without BA? I can load them in MS and do the same in MS without the speed and crash issues So why use all the BA stuff unless it is to produce wall section (1/2" scale) drawings SO I ASK THE ORIGINAL QUESTION OF BENTLEY? WHAT IS THE PURPOSE OF BA? DO WE DRAW DETAILED MODELS TO A RELATIVE SCALE TO BE USED FOR PLANS AND SECTIONS OR DO WE DRAW OUTLINES????? It makes huge differences from the first drawing created and how we do every piece of work within this package. HELP PLEASE
  • One thing I will add here is that general BV performance should be much better in Ss3.  And even more so with a new option being introduced in the next beta which can temporarily generate static DV graphics - it's like working with a 2D model.  I can't go into detail since it's not yet released, but keep any eye out for beta II...

    Edit: I forgot I wasn't in the AECOsim Building Designer beta forum...  Obviously my comments above do refer to the SELECTseries3 beta.



  • How easy is the transition of a job??

    If it is hard to use my current dataset it is hard to switch again and start from scratch

    Ustn since 1988
    SS4 - i7-3.45Ghz-16 Gb-250/1Tb/1Tb-Win8.1-64b

    Eric D. Milberger
    Architect + Master Planner + BIM

    Senior  Master Planner NASA - Marshall Space Flight Center

    The Milberger Architectural Group, llc

  • Not to mention that with DEM my model files generally get to about 5- 20 Mb per file

    and plot files never really exceeded 1Mb.

    Now with BV's my model files have balloned out to 30Mb (the ones with DV's in them. and my plot files (sheet files) are also getting up to 13Mb and climbing all the time. everytime I change the model the DV recalculates and my sheet file gets bigger. This should just be a straight reference of my 3d model I woulda thought.. but no. It doesnt work that way.

    My CAD manager had to disable all his highly elaborate file checking scrptis as they were kicking me out of Mstn all the time as I was exceedding the file limits.. (multiple offices using a VPN so this is necessary to reduce network traffic interoffice.) I now have to compress and delete Building View accelerators to make the file size limit a decent time.

    BUT BV';s are soooooo slllloooowwwwwww when doing this its just annoying working at snails pace. I never had this problem with DEM.

  • I had slow issues with DEM though as I was constantly ahving to remake DEMs then the models got so complicated that DEMs crash and I could not longer create 2d files.

    Ustn since 1988
    SS4 - i7-3.45Ghz-16 Gb-250/1Tb/1Tb-Win8.1-64b

    Eric D. Milberger
    Architect + Master Planner + BIM

    Senior  Master Planner NASA - Marshall Space Flight Center

    The Milberger Architectural Group, llc

  • Yes but from wat you say in previous posts on this forum, your models are very big in what I call overdone, as you do all the detail in your models. I try to keep it to modelling only the outline to produce my general sections only and I have very fast DEMS that work great. It never used to take more than half an hour to process all my plans, sections and elevations.

    From what you say in your posts only one of your sections take half and hour using DEM. I just avioid having that problem right from the start.
    I just add detail over the top of my clipped details, which only realy is about 10% of the project in 2d at the most.