I have noticed these commands on the right click menu - they look useful but also a little scary to manage on larger projects.
Could people tell me how they use and manage these function and what the consensus is on them - a good thing or a bad thing?
We have concluded that for making quick and dirty save as sketch option studies there is no obvious drawback, but when you you start to look at using it on final drawings of larger buildings that might have things hidden and then re-hidden it starts to become difficult to manage consistantly.
In our office we have debated the question and comeback with wide ranging opinions from not using it at all to thoughts about careful use of it. The nub of the debate has ranged around the nature of the model and whether it is ever truly a finished entity, and as such whether downstream drawings can be truly finished.
It depends.
I use hte wall command to currently create by compound roofs. Works pretty good it is just have have to remember that the top is now the back and hte bottom front and sides top and bottom. Or reversed.
They clean up similar elements nicely.
However - when you build something - which is what you are doing here. - how often do you pour a slab and wall and roof all together at the same time. So a wall and roof would not typically miter. There would be a construction joint of some kind.
But I do want my walls to extend to other objects and I I really don't care if it is a side or a top. SO it could simplify the tool if then we could do all the things we do to ANY side (6 of them) to something else.
A wall is just a special form and top and bottom are good but not needed for everything. time for the next step forward.
First - there was free for all with forms.
Second - contrained Forms for order and a way to understand how things work
Now a combination of both so that we go past the ver stiff box building. (a curved building is not REALLY 3D)
A 3d design explores all direction and the tops of floors are not always boxes.
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Agree that Forms should be updated.
But, in this case, I think the Forms shown did not unite because the new multithreaded BV unite engine can not deal with overlapping elements....?
Or is it because they are in different families?
Walls mitres do not unite in plan when they are different heights... something similar happening here?
This is something that should be addressed in the modeling and not in "tricks" like hiding something. If this was done with forms there would not be the issue. Walls and Forms, roofs, etc, need another leap, in that (just like in this example of same materials) are just basically forms. And during placemnt top and bottom are relevant HOWEVER after that sides are sides. Top side should be able to merge to end side.
Though I note that if both are the same material they should display as one in DV.
If they are both the same material, but different pours or constructions, would there not be a expansion joint or construction joint of some sort - and then that should be modeled.
No problem! I do see your point in that example, where turning off both elements probably is the best/only way to make use of the Hide function,
Beg pardon, you did point that out. Ignore my last two sentences, the first one still stands though!
Regards
Marc