Form Modeling vs Architectural Designer tools

Newby advice please - what is the relationship between Form Modeling tools and Architectural Designer tools or perhaps I should say Building Designer tools incl Structural and the Services?

I have a clue/note: "Form modeling = older TF tools incl more flexible ones but you have to manually select attributes". So is Form Modeling being phased out in favour of Building Designer? When will the Building Designer toolset catch up with the capabilities of the older Form Modeling toolset?

Can the two toolsets be mixed and matched? Does use of Form Modeler tools create elements lacking in attributes or whatever, compared to elements created strictly by newer Building Designer tools? Should I try to use only the latter?

For example, out-of-the-box AD Composite Part (walls) don't include plaster or render; in Help Tip&Trick no.5 'Adding finish to a wall' says use Build Wall Assembly, which is a Form Modeling tool.

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  • I concur.  These tools allow you to use other AECOsim tools, such as Door Windows, whereas Smart Solids don't.

    Also, the smart solids are not able to be promoted to AECOsim solids.

  • TF-forms are cells and have been around since Brics made  Triforma 25+ years ago. 

    Essentially you can't do anything more with 'walls' than with TF-forms!

    Other than you can use DGS. With TF-forms you use Parts+Components and Calculate. (edit- should be Quantify)

     

    The important tools are Compound cells and cut resymbolisation relative naked MicroStation. No difference between Triforma and ABD there.

    DV/BVs are nice in 3d-modeling phase, a step up from 2d-3d-bridge in TF. But much much more complicated  to handle, both in 3d and in drawings and sheets. DEM 'output' is so simple to work with and manage.

    regards / Thomas Voghera

  • One other advantage the form modeling tool got is, that you can give it a 'direction' for hatches and patterns. This can be useful for existing building elements or for simple parts where you just want to show a hatch or a pattern. When using solids you will end up always with a horizontal orientation of for example an insulation hatch.